[comp.sys.mac] SUMII Optimize error

ren@surf.sics.bu.oz (Renato Iannella) (12/19/89)

When I try to Optimize my Hard Disk with SUMII's Tune Up Program, it get's half way thru the process and then gives an "Unexpected Error, cancelled. D 1" message.  Anyone had the same problem or know why?

SetUp: SE/30, 5MB RAM, 80MB HD, System 6.0.3 (Booted off a floppy)


Many ThanXs,

Renato Iannella
---
Info & Comp Sciences, Bond University, Australia, 4229
Voice: +61 75 953381  ARPA,Bit: ren%kowande.bu.oz.au@uunet.uu.net
Fax:   +61 75 953320  Internet: ren@kowande.bu.oz.au

dvb@inmet.inmet.com (12/19/89)

I think I lost half the message (ironic?)

But it sounds like the problem recently discussed
about the D1 error that Disk First Aid can fix--
then try again. 

If not, SUM people have been know to be helpful
in diagnosing--just know the error that the 
optimize reports.

dvb@inmet.com

dlong@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (12/20/89)

I had the same problem a while back- 'fraid i don't know why exactly
that happens, but there were some postings a little while back suggesting
running Apple's Disk First Aid if you run into problems.
I just did the old backup/reformat thing- I had to clean off a lot of
junk anyways.

wilkins@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Mark Wilkins) (12/20/89)

In article <189@insted.unimelb.edu.au> LGEORGE@insted.unimelb.edu.au 
(Lord Vader) writes of using SUM Tools or Disk Express to cope with a SUM
Tune Up D1 error during optimization.

  Yes, all of the methods you mentioned will work.  However, SUM Tools is
not for the weak of heart and not everyone has Disk Express.
  Luckily, this problem is something which Disk First Aid, on the Apple
Utilities disks which come with the Mac, can fix.
  All you have to do is launch Disk First Aid and press the "repair" button
or some such.  The problem will go away.

-- Mark Wilkins

LGEORGE@insted.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Vader) (12/20/89)

In article <716@surf.sics.bu.oz>, ren@surf.sics.bu.oz (Renato Iannella) writes:
> When I try to Optimize my Hard Disk with SUMII's Tune Up Program, it get's half way thru the process and then gives an "Unexpected Error, cancelled. D 1" message.  Anyone had the same problem or know why?
> 
> SetUp: SE/30, 5MB RAM, 80MB HD, System 6.0.3 (Booted off a floppy)
> 
> 
> Many ThanXs,
> 
> Renato Iannella
> ---
> Info & Comp Sciences, Bond University, Australia, 4229
> Voice: +61 75 953381  ARPA,Bit: ren%kowande.bu.oz.au@uunet.uu.net
> Fax:   +61 75 953320  Internet: ren@kowande.bu.oz.au
Yeah, I got that a few times too.  Its actually 'trying' to tell you that it 
has found a block that is allocated but not to any file, ie the block says it 
belongs but it belongs to no-one.  If you look up the error in the manual it 
simply says call us and let us know, thanks a lot guys [gals].  What you need 
to do is either of two things.
	Launch SUM Tools, select Edit Volume under Volume, select the volume
in question, choose the "Vol Map" option under the pop-up on the top 
right of the window and look at the the very next allocated block, ie the first 
black block after the first white block.  Point the cross of the magnifying 
glass on the first black block and hold the mouse button down... a window will 
appear saying the file that the block is associated with, whether it be a Data 
fork block or Resource fork block, the disk sector number, and the allocation 
block number.  With the mouse still down, you will notice a pop-up menu just 
to the bottom right of your mouse, saying either "allocate block/read disk 
block" if the block is un-allocated, ie white; or "de-allocate block/read disk 
block" if the block is allocated.  What you will find is that the block you are 
pointing to is allocated, but not to a file.  You will need to de-allocate the 
disk block.  My experience with this sort of problem is that there are usually 
more than one allocated block, and SUM gets you to confirm [twice] that you 
wish to de-allocate the block.
	Your second choice is launch Disk Express.  It will analyze the volume 
and give you information regarding how many blocks are allocated to no files.  
If the number of these blocks is huge, ie >50, then let Disk Express unfragment 
the volume.  Even a quick unfragment should do it [Disk Express 1.5].  If the 
number of these blocks is small, say 10, it might be worth doing it with SUM 
Tools.
	I neither work for, or own either of the two companies that produce the 
above mentioned software, I am just a happy customer.  My owners are mentioned 
below.  Please don't let them know that I have spoken, they don't know I can 
talk.

-- 
George Stamatopoulos					#### ###
La Trobe University -					#### ###
	Lincoln School of Health Sciences		#### #####
Computing Unit						#### ##### incoln
Melbourne						####
Victoria						##########
Australia						########## a Trobe

lgeorge@insted.unimelb.ed@canremote.uucp (LGEORGE@insted.unimelb.ed) (12/21/89)

From: LGEORGE@insted.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Vader)
Orga: La Trobe University - Lincoln School of Health Sciences

In article <716@surf.sics.bu.oz>, ren@surf.sics.bu.oz (Renato
Iannella) writes: > When I try to Optimize my Hard Disk with SUMII's
Tune Up Program, it get's half way thru the process and then gives an
"Unexpected Error, cancelled. D 1" message.  Anyone had the same
problem or know why? > 
> SetUp: SE/30, 5MB RAM, 80MB HD, System 6.0.3 (Booted off a floppy)
> 
> 
> Many ThanXs,
> 
> Renato Iannella
> ---
> Info & Comp Sciences, Bond University, Australia, 4229
> Voice: +61 75 953381  ARPA,Bit: ren%kowande.bu.oz.au@uunet.uu.net
> Fax:   +61 75 953320  Internet: ren@kowande.bu.oz.au
Yeah, I got that a few times too.  Its actually 'trying' to tell you
that it  has found a block that is allocated but not to any file, ie
the block says it  belongs but it belongs to no-one.  If you look up
the error in the manual it  simply says call us and let us know,
thanks a lot guys [gals].  What you need  to do is either of two
things.
        Launch SUM Tools, select Edit Volume under Volume, select the
volume in question, choose the "Vol Map" option under the pop-up on
the top  right of the window and look at the the very next allocated
block, ie the first  black block after the first white block.  Point
the cross of the magnifying  glass on the first black block and hold
the mouse button down... a window will  appear saying the file that
the block is associated with, whether it be a Data  fork block or
Resource fork block, the disk sector number, and the allocation 
block number.  With the mouse still down, you will notice a pop-up
menu just  to the bottom right of your mouse, saying either "allocate
block/read disk  block" if the block is un-allocated, ie white; or
"de-allocate block/read disk  block" if the block is allocated.  What
you will find is that the block you are  pointing to is allocated,
but not to a file.  You will need to de-allocate the  disk block.  My
experience with this sort of problem is that there are usually  more
than one allocated block, and SUM gets you to confirm [twice] that
you  wish to de-allocate the block.
        Your second choice is launch Disk Express.  It will analyze
the volume  and give you information regarding how many blocks are
allocated to no files.   If the number of these blocks is huge, ie
>50, then let Disk Express unfragment  the volume.  Even a quick
unfragment should do it [Disk Express 1.5].  If the  number of these
blocks is small, say 10, it might be worth doing it with SUM  Tools.
        I neither work for, or own either of the two companies that
produce the  above mentioned software, I am just a happy customer. 
My owners are mentioned  below.  Please don't let them know that I
have spoken, they don't know I can  talk.

-- 
George Stamatopoulos                                    #### ###
La Trobe University -                                   #### ###
        Lincoln School of Health Sciences               #### #####
Computing Unit                                          #### #####
incoln Melbourne                                               ####
Victoria                                                ##########
Australia                                               ########## a
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