[comp.sys.mac] JCRemote

d6maca@dtek.chalmers.se. (Martin Carlberg) (12/18/89)

I tried to post this to comp.binaries.mac, but it didn't work.
Does anyone know why?

This CDEV helps you move files and folders between Macs by using
AppleTalk. If you like Public Folder you might like this. This is
a very early version so there are known bugs and probably unknown
too. If you find bugs or have any comments please reply to me.
Drop it in the system folder and use the Chooser to get more info.

Have fun
  Martin Carlberg

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d6maca@dtek.chalmers.se. (Martin Carlberg) (12/21/89)

Hi everybody!

Did anyone get my posting of this little CDEV called JCRemote? Maybe it was
lost in the flame war :-). It works like Public Folder, but you can get files
and folders anywhere from the other mashine (not only from one folder). It has
some other neat features too. It is a prerelease, but I would like to here
from other what they think of it, what should be added etc. If nobody got it
please tell me and I will repost it.

Merry Christmas to everybody.
- Martin Carlberg
- Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, Sweden

ALC@PSUVM.BITNET (12/21/89)

We'd love to try JCRemote but you have put a password on the STUFFIT
archive. Perhaps you'd repost or at least share the existing password.

(Sorry about posting put our mailer doesn't know .CHALMERS.SE)

mcjones@jumbo.dec.com (Paul McJones) (12/22/89)

Martin,

[I'm following up to the net rather than replying directly to Martin
partly because I can't find a mail address that works for him and partly
because I think my experience my be of interest to others considering
trying JCRemote.]

JCRemote got at least as far as decwrl in California, so it probably
propagated fairly widely.

I downloaded it, unpacked it, and dropped it in the system folder of my
Mac Plus.  Then I opened the Chooser and selected JCRemote without
rebooting my machine. Nothing happened for several minutes (the machine
displayed the watch cursor, and wouldn't respond to Command-.) then I got
a bomb box (ID = 25).  There was a restart button in the bomb box, so I
pushed it, but the bomb box returned.  So I rebooted my machine, but that
failed: I had to replace the System file before I could reboot from the
hard disk.  Luckily I lost no data files.

I recommend you supply some documentation accompanying JCRemote, including
installation instructions, i.e., REBOOT MACHINE BEFORE TRYING TO RUN
JCRemote.  You might also mention which machines you've tested it on.

Finally, I tried JCRemote again, and managed to fetch files from another
machine.  But I noticed some problems:

    After invoking the Fetch command, if I descended into a folder 
    of the other Mac, I couldn't use the normal pop-up to get back 
    out of that folder: the pop-up would display, but wouldn't respond 
    to the mouse.

    I couldn't fetch an entire folder: it would create the folder 
    on my machine, but would then get an error -37 for each of the 
    constituent files it tried to fetch.

    If the program is fruitlessly searching for other machines running 
    JCRemote, it doesn't provide a way to cancel.  There should be 
    a cancel button.  Eventually, JCRemote seems to time out and bomb 
    with ID = 25 (out of memory?).

By the way, I was curious why I had to type the "empty password" to
StuffIt in order to unpack the file.


Paul McJones
DEC Systems Research Center, Palo Alto
decwrl!mcjones
mcjones@src.dec.com

clark@randvax.UUCP (John Clark) (12/22/89)

From article <617@vice2utc.chalmers.se>, by d6maca@dtek.chalmers.se.
(Martin Carlberg):
> Did anyone get my posting of this little CDEV called JCRemote? ...
> It works like Public Folder, but you can get files
> and folders anywhere from the other mashine (not only from one folder)...
> ...
> - Martin Carlberg
> - Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, Sweden

I did indeed get it... and how.  Upon installing it on two networked
machines (a SE/30 and a plain SE), and calling it up from the Chooser, it
froze both machines solid.  After forced reboots, neither machine would
start from the internal hard disks.  I'm still trying to repair the
damage.  At a minimum, both System files got trashed, and possibly the
PRAMs as well.  Use of any network-related INITs (e.g., Broadcast, Public
Folder) crashes the machines during bootup.  No important files appear to
have been lost, but I expect I'll have to reinitialize both hard disks. :-(

I haven't found any evidence of a virus, but beware... JCRemote seems
to be anything but benign.

A friendly suggestion for the original poster:

   *NEVER* post something as potentially powerful as JCRemote without
   including reasonably detailed documentation.  A couple of sentences
   telling what it does is not sufficient.

Having said all this, I'd still like to give JCRemote a try.  What's the
trick to using this thing?

John Clark
clark@rand.org

d6maca@dtek.chalmers.se. (Martin Carlberg) (12/22/89)

In article <14259@jumbo.dec.com> mcjones@jumbo.UUCP (Paul McJones) writes:
>I recommend you supply some documentation accompanying JCRemote, including
>installation instructions, i.e., REBOOT MACHINE BEFORE TRYING TO RUN
>JCRemote.  You might also mention which machines you've tested it on.

Ok, Next time I will send installation instruction in a textfile, but there
are instructions online. I have tested JCRemote on Plus, SE, MacII, MacIIci
and SE/30, and it worked, but I have heard from people that there are some
problems on Plus and SE. I don't know why or when but I will check it out.

>Finally, I tried JCRemote again, and managed to fetch files from another
>machine.  But I noticed some problems:
>
>    After invoking the Fetch command, if I descended into a folder 
>    of the other Mac, I couldn't use the normal pop-up to get back 
>    out of that folder: the pop-up would display, but wouldn't respond 
>    to the mouse.

It's a known bug (feature), it will be fixed in the final. Click on the little
disk icon to move up one folderlevel.

>By the way, I was curious why I had to type the "empty password" to
>StuffIt in order to unpack the file.

I did a mistake when I packed it, sorry!

- Martin Carlberg
- Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, Sweden

clubmac@runxtsa.runx.oz.au (Macintosh Users Group) (12/25/89)

In article <617@vice2utc.chalmers.se> d6maca@dtek.chalmers.se (Martin Carlberg) writes:
>Did anyone get my posting of this little CDEV called JCRemote? Maybe it was
>lost in the flame war :-). It works like Public Folder, but you can get files
>and folders anywhere from the other mashine (not only from one folder). It has
>some other neat features too. It is a prerelease, but I would like to here
>from other what they think of it, what should be added etc. If nobody got it
>please tell me and I will repost it.

Oh, I got it, alright! But WHY IS IT PASSWORD PROTECTED? HUH?