[comp.sys.mac] MacWorld Expo?

volaski@acsu.buffalo.edu (12/07/89)

I haven't heard anything about the MacWorld expo. What's going on? Has January's
show been canceled.

Maurice Volaski
University at Buffalo
Dept. of Physiology

Armadillo@cup.portal.com (Russ Armadillo Coffman) (12/09/89)

MacWorld in SF will be April 10-13 instead of in January. -Russ

mkao@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Mike "Butterball" Kao) (12/10/89)

In article <24829@cup.portal.com> Armadillo@cup.portal.com (Russ Armadillo Coffman) writes:
>MacWorld in SF will be April 10-13 instead of in January. -Russ


Say what?!? I didn't know that...WHY?
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Armadillo@cup.portal.com (Russ Armadillo Coffman) (12/11/89)

Mike,

Why is MacWorld in April instead of January? Beats me. But this date has
been set for some time. -Russ

jellinghaus-robert@CS.YALE.EDU (Rob Jellinghaus) (12/12/89)

In article <24895@cup.portal.com> Armadillo@cup.portal.com (Russ Armadillo Coffman) writes:
>Why is MacWorld in April instead of January? Beats me. But this date has
>been set for some time. -Russ

Aw, c'mon, y'all!  We've all seen Apple do this expo-delaying thing before,
and it always means the same thing:  New Product Introductions.  They've
got something up their sleeve that won't be ready for January, but will be
by April.

So the REAL question is:  WHAT?  What is Apple going to spring on us come
April?  System 7.0?  Mac III?  The 33-MHz 25 MIPS beast rumored in the
latest VAPORWARE column (see c.s.m.digest)?

Let's get them rumors flyin'!


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nilesinc@well.UUCP (Avi Rappoport) (12/13/89)

In article <14284@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> volaski@acsu.buffalo.edu () writes:
>I haven't heard anything about the MacWorld expo. What's going on? Has January's
>show been canceled.
>
>Maurice Volaski
>University at Buffalo
>Dept. of Physiology

Moved to April, apparently during the week of Passover and Easter (week of the
8th).

I know they didn't want to conflict with the SuperBowl but this is rediculous!

Avi

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rock%warp@Sun.COM (Bill Petro) (12/13/89)

meuchen@grad2.cis.upenn.edu (Paul Eric Menchen) writes:

>In article <8149@cs.yale.edu> jellinghaus-robert@yale.UUCP writes:
>>In article <24895@cup.portal.com> Armadillo@cup.portal.com (Russ Armadillo Coffman) writes:
>>>Why is MacWorld in April instead of January? Beats me. But this date has
>>>been set for some time. -Russ
>>
>>Aw, c'mon, y'all!  We've all seen Apple do this expo-delaying thing before,
>>and it always means the same thing:  New Product Introductions.  They've
>>got something up their sleeve that won't be ready for January, but will be
>>by April.

>As I recall reading on the net a few days (maybe a week) after the
>earthquake hit San Francisco, the Expo was delayed because of this.
>Apple lost a lot of machines, had some problems, MacWorld lost two
>writers, and all other sorts of hell broke loose, so quit trying to
>blame Apple - it's not their fault.

The earthquake had nothing to do with the change of schedule, and it was
MacWEEK that lost the 2 writers.  The later date was scheduled far
before the earthquake.


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shiffman%basselope@Sun.COM (Hank Shiffman) (12/13/89)

In article <17960@netnews.upenn.edu> meuchen@grad2.cis.upenn.edu.UUCP (Paul Eric Menchen) writes:
>In article <8149@cs.yale.edu> jellinghaus-robert@yale.UUCP writes:
>>In article <24895@cup.portal.com> Armadillo@cup.portal.com (Russ Armadillo Coffman) writes:
>>>Why is MacWorld in April instead of January? Beats me. But this date has
>>>been set for some time. -Russ
>>
>>Aw, c'mon, y'all!  We've all seen Apple do this expo-delaying thing before,
>>and it always means the same thing:  New Product Introductions.  They've
>>got something up their sleeve that won't be ready for January, but will be
>>by April.
>
>As I recall reading on the net a few days (maybe a week) after the
>earthquake hit San Francisco, the Expo was delayed because of this.
>Apple lost a lot of machines, had some problems, MacWorld lost two
>writers, and all other sorts of hell broke loose, so quit trying to
>blame Apple - it's not their fault.
>

Nice bit of revisionist history.  Actually, the April date for the San
Francisco MacWorld has been advertised for many months, since long
before the quake.  The explanation I heard involved Moscone Center
being booked during January.  It may have something to do with the
major construction going on at Moscone these days.


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ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM (Norman Goodger) (12/14/89)

In article <129132@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> rock%warp@Sun.COM (Bill Petro) writes:
>The earthquake had nothing to do with the change of schedule, and it was
>MacWEEK that lost the 2 writers.  The later date was scheduled far
>before the earthquake.
>     Bill Petro  {decwrl,hplabs,ucbvax}!sun!Eng!rock
>"UNIX for the sake of the kingdom of heaven"  Matthew 19:12

Actually it was MacUser that lost the people...

On the other score, I have yet to hear a good reason for why the show
was moved to April, one good rumor is that they'll have more final betas
for 7.0 by then...



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jordan@Apple.COM (Jordan Mattson) (12/14/89)

Dear Rob -
	Without commenting on product introductions that may or may not 
occur, or may or may not be planned, I have to clear something up for
you.  Apple does not decide when the MacWorld Expos occur.  In fact, if
you realized how little pull we have with Mitch Hall and Associates, the 
folks that put on the MacWorld Expo, you would never have made this 
asserition.
	The story that I have heard about the change in schedule is very
simple: Mitch Hall and Associates forgot to sign up with the Mascone 
Center for their usual date.  When they realized this, the first available
date was the current one.  Nothing sinister here.
	I think that this situation points out something that should be
taken into account when examing things that happen in the MacWorld, and
in the world in general.  Quite often it is something totally inoccent
that people try to interpert into something with sinister implications.
Maybe you should go back and think about the Eric Drexler quote that 
you have for you signature.

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mkg@cbnewsl.ATT.COM (m.gosnell) (12/14/89)

I've known about the April 90 date since late spring.  Mitch Hall, the
show's promoter, was reported to have made a booking foul-up and that April
was the earliest available date.

One interesting rumor that circulated through the developer community at the
time of the date change was that the show was delayed so that System 7.0
would be available.
   Marsh Gosnell

MacUserLabs@cup.portal.com (Stephan - Somogyi) (12/14/89)

rock%warp@Sun.COM (Bill Petro) writes:
 
>The earthquake had nothing to do with the change of schedule, and it
>was MacWEEK that lost the 2 writers.  The later date was scheduled
>far before the earthquake.
 
It was neither Macworld nor MacWeek; we lost two people :-(
 
The rumor that I heard about why April had to do with Moskone already
having been booked several years in advance for some real estate
agents conference or something in that vein. Apparently April was the
best other time that they could get.
 
This is, of course, purest rumor-mill material and may not have any
relation to the real reason.
 
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rock%warp@Sun.COM (Bill Petro) (12/15/89)

ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM (Norman Goodger) writes:

>In article <129132@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> rock%warp@Sun.COM (Bill Petro) writes:
>>The earthquake had nothing to do with the change of schedule, and it was
>>MacWEEK that lost the 2 writers.  The later date was scheduled far
>>before the earthquake.
>>     Bill Petro  {decwrl,hplabs,ucbvax}!sun!Eng!rock
>>"UNIX for the sake of the kingdom of heaven"  Matthew 19:12

>Actually it was MacUser that lost the people...

>On the other score, I have yet to hear a good reason for why the show
>was moved to April, one good rumor is that they'll have more final betas
>for 7.0 by then...

I have heard that Apple is going to rename the next version of their OS
System 7.1, in honor of the quake.  Just a joke :-)


     Bill Petro  {decwrl,hplabs,ucbvax}!sun!Eng!rock
"UNIX for the sake of the kingdom of heaven"  Matthew 19:12

RBAUER@oregon.uoregon.edu (Robert Bauer) (12/27/89)

In article <129134@sun.Eng.Sun.COM>, shiffman%basselope@Sun.COM (Hank Shiffman) writes:
> In article <17960@netnews.upenn.edu> meuchen@grad2.cis.upenn.edu.UUCP (Paul Eric Menchen) writes:
>>In article <8149@cs.yale.edu> jellinghaus-robert@yale.UUCP writes:
>>>In article <24895@cup.portal.com> Armadillo@cup.portal.com (Russ Armadillo Coffman) writes:
>>>>Why is MacWorld in April instead of January? Beats me. But this date has
>>>>been set for some time. -Russ
>>>
>>>Aw, c'mon, y'all!  We've all seen Apple do this expo-delaying thing before,
>>>and it always means the same thing:  New Product Introductions.  They've
>>>got something up their sleeve that won't be ready for January, but will be
>>>by April.
>>
>>As I recall reading on the net a few days (maybe a week) after the
>>earthquake hit San Francisco, the Expo was delayed because of this.
>>Apple lost a lot of machines, had some problems, MacWorld lost two
>>writers, and all other sorts of hell broke loose, so quit trying to
>>blame Apple - it's not their fault.
>>
> 
> 
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It's the fault of the people who put on the expo.  They didn't think that it
would be a problem getting the Moscone Center in January and didn't bother
reserving it in time, and the boat show took the only slot available.  As
someone who'e been to several expos as an exhibitor, and experienced this
"management" style first-hand, I'm not the least bit surprised that they
screwed up the scheduling.