[comp.sys.mac] Multifinder Change

jxf@phobos.cis.ksu.edu (Jerry Frain) (12/22/89)

With talk about improvements to Multifinder bouncing around between
flames, I would like to throw $.02 in.

I would like to see list of active applications under a menu accessible
through the Multifinder icon, rather than below the list of desk accessories.

Yes, I aware of the historical and implementation reasons for putting
the list of active applications under the desk accessories, but it does not
seem logical to click on the Multifinder icon to switch [through the list
of currently active] applications, but to have to go to the bottom of the
desk accessory list to tell Multifinder *which* application to go to.

Firstly, this is somewhat redundant, having two ever-present methods of
switching between applications, and it takes away from the simplicity of
the Mac interface by forcing upon the user a decision to do practically
the same thing.

Secondly, I would like to *always* be able to select *which* application
I wish to continue, but I do not wish to drag my mouse past the fifteen
desk accessories that I have to get to the application selections.

Why not just group all of the Multifinder stuff under the Multifinder
icon?

Must be a really tough world out there if all I'm concerned about
is something as trivial as this... :-)

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brh@hare.udev.cdc.com (brian r hanson x6009) (12/23/89)

In article <1989Dec21.195001.17745@deimos.cis.ksu.edu> jxf@phobos.cis.ksu.edu (Jerry Frain) writes:
>I would like to see list of active applications under a menu accessible
>through the Multifinder icon, rather than below the list of desk accessories.

I have used a version of multifinder which places the list of open applications
before the desk accessories.  The other enhancement this multifinder had was
that the last entry of the applications part of the apple menu was 
  set aside 'application'
when selected it caused the application to be de-activated and all the windows
to be removed from the display.  This could be done for all applications 
including the finder.  When this was done to an application, the entry for
that application in the apple menu becomes grayed out and it is no longer 
part of the circle of applications that multifinder switches between when the
multifinder icon is clicked.  Choosing the grayed application entry in the
apple menu causes the application to be re-activated and all windows to be
re-displayed.

I found this multifinder varient to be much more usable.

dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott) (12/23/89)

In article <14874@shamash.cdc.com> brh@hare.udev.cdc.com (brian r hanson x6009) writes:
>In article <1989Dec21.195001.17745@deimos.cis.ksu.edu> jxf@phobos.cis.ksu.edu (Jerry Frain) writes:
>>I would like to see list of active applications under a menu accessible
>>through the Multifinder icon, rather than below the list of desk accessories.
>
>I have used a version of multifinder which places the list of open applications
>before the desk accessories.  The other enhancement this multifinder had was
>that the last entry of the applications part of the apple menu was 
>  set aside 'application'
>when selected it caused the application to be de-activated and all the windows
>to be removed from the display.  This could be done for all applications 

One word: Chocolate chip cookies!

OK, it's not one word and it doesn't apply here, but it's a good idea.

Anyway, there is a better choice: ApplicationMenu, an INIT by Larry
Rosenstein.  This INIT causes a button press in the upper right or
left corner of the menu to display the application menu just as it
appears in the DA menu.  Of course, any program that doesn't show
the DA menu properly won't work right (but what do you expect from
programs like that?).

As for the new MultiFinder, I use it because I like 'Set Aside',
but I sure wish that instead of moving things and forcing us to
change our ways that they'd just make things user-definable.  Now
I have to scrll my DA menu just because the applications are all
at the top.  Well, maybe this'll give Larry R. or Steve Brecher
something to do.
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resgroup@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (12/28/89)

ApplicationMenu?  Sounds interesting.  Where can we find it?

Ju, Yun-cheng