[comp.sys.mac] Mackermit

dlt@csuna.UUCP (Dave Thompson) (06/09/88)

I just finished a cursory evaluation of Kermit 0.9(40) and found one rather
fatal flaw.  There is no option to make the delete key send a backspace
rather than a delete character.  While many of our mainframes (if not most)
accept, or can be made to accept the delete key, we have a few that
require use of the backspace character.  While I guess you *can* use
control-h, that's sort-of tedious.  For those of you who wrote this program,
how about an option to change this (rather as VersaTerm of MacTerminal
does)?

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dplatt@coherent.com (Dave Platt) (06/10/88)

In article <1243@csuna.UUCP> dlt@csuna.UUCP (Dave Thompson) writes:
> I just finished a cursory evaluation of Kermit 0.9(40) and found one rather
> fatal flaw.  There is no option to make the delete key send a backspace
> rather than a delete character.

Ummm... I beg to differ.  Pull down "Set key macros..." from the
Settings menu, hit the delete key, replace the "\177" binding (ASCII
"DEL") with "\010" (control-H/BS), click Ok, then Ok again.  It's done.
You can save this macro-binding (as well as any other customizations you
may want) via the "Save Settings..." command in the File menu.
Double-clicking on the resulting document will launch MacKermit and bind
the delete key to be a backspace, just as you want;  other saved-setting
documents can provide different bindings for different purposes.

MacKermit's key-remapping capability is quite powerful... no nested
macros, as far as I can figure out, but it's entirely possible to bind
any character sequence to any particular key.  It's true that there's no
instantly-accessible "Send backspace for delete" command in the menu,
but the capability that is much more flexible than any small number of
menu-choices.

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mkhaw@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA (Mike Khaw) (06/10/88)

> I just finished a cursory evaluation of Kermit 0.9(40) and found one rather
> fatal flaw.  There is no option to make the delete key send a backspace
> rather than a delete character.  While many of our mainframes (if not most)

Just use the "key macros" menu option to set the backspace key to transmit
\177.  It works on my SE with the extended ADB keyboard.

Mike Khaw
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mkhaw@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA (Mike Khaw) (06/10/88)

> Just use the "key macros" menu option to set the backspace key to transmit
> \177.  It works on my SE with the extended ADB keyboard.

Whoops, that should be \010, not \177.

Sorry, it's late and my brain is on hold.

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bytebug@dhw68k.cts.com (Roger L. Long) (06/11/88)

In article <1243@csuna.UUCP> dlt@csuna.UUCP (Dave Thompson) writes:
>I just finished a cursory evaluation of Kermit 0.9(40) and found one rather
>fatal flaw.  There is no option to make the delete key send a backspace
>rather than a delete character.  While many of our mainframes (if not most)
>accept, or can be made to accept the delete key, we have a few that
>require use of the backspace character.  While I guess you *can* use
>control-h, that's sort-of tedious.  For those of you who wrote this program,
>how about an option to change this (rather as VersaTerm of MacTerminal
>does)?

While I don't remember exactly where it is, I do remember using such an
option while testing it.
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ian@inmet.UUCP (06/15/88)

I think shift-backspace will send delete

macman@ethz.UUCP (Danny Schwendener) (06/19/88)

>>I just finished a cursory evaluation of Kermit 0.9(40) and found one rather
>>fatal flaw.  There is no option to make the delete key send a backspace
>>rather than a delete character.  While many of our mainframes (if not most)
...
>While I don't remember exactly where it is, I do remember using such an
>option while testing it.

In any case, you can still easily redefine your delete-key to a
backspace with the "set macro keys" command.

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ajq@mace.cc.purdue.edu (John O'Malley) (10/06/88)

In article <13884@mimsy.UUCP> folta@tove.umd.edu.UUCP (Wayne Folta) writes:
>
>I am having problems with the font used in Kermit on my Mac SE.  
>... the font is *very* scrunched up ...
>I am using CKMKER 0.8(35) -- June 1987

Everyone's been asking questions about MacKermit lately, so I thought I'd
post this response.

From your posting, Wayne, it sounds like you're using an old version of
Kermit.  Get a copy of the latest version from the info-mac archives
at sumex-aim.stanford.edu (or from any of several other sources).

The latest version of MacKermit (to my knowledge) is 0.9(40).  Here's
a small summary of its features:
	- the screen font is readable no matter what disk you boot
	  from (fixing a bug from some previous versions)
	- supports extended-length packet Kermit protocol file transfers
	- works well with the latest versions of C-Kermit, the mainframe-
	  side of Kermit file transfers
	- doesn't come with key mappings like BREAK, but you can set
	  them yourself by choosing "Set key macros" from the Settings
	  menu (eliminating the need for the CKMKER program) and then
	  you can save your settings to a file
	- does session and transaction logs, and saves them to a file
	- even parity works (it didn't in an earlier version)
	- communicates well with MS-Kermit (Kermit on MS-DOS computers)
	  for direct-link long-packet file transfers between PC and Mac
	- works in MultiFinder, though I haven't tested background
	  file transfers
	- works well on the Mac Plus, SE, and II

Feel free to mail me with any not-too-technical Kermit questions you have.
The above summary should answer some of the recent batch of postings.


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ijlustig@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Irvin Lustig) (10/07/88)

In article <812@mace.cc.purdue.edu> ajq@mace.cc.purdue.edu.UUCP (John O'Malley) writes:
>
>Everyone's been asking questions about MacKermit lately, so I thought I'd
>post this response.
>
>The latest version of MacKermit (to my knowledge) is 0.9(40).  Here's
>a small summary of its features:
Stuff omitted...
>	- works in MultiFinder, though I haven't tested background
>	  file transfers
I have tested background file transfers and they DO work.  This is
true with System 6.0.  It is quite convenient!!

	-Irv Lustig
	Assistant Professor
	Dept. of Civil Engineering and Operations Research
	Princeton University
	irv%basie@princeton.edu

marta@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (01/25/89)

Hello,

I'm looking for the latest version of mackermit. Excuse my ignorance
but I'm not sure if this is "free" software or not. Also, I'd like
some documentation. I currently have and old version of mackermit
(.8(34)) but I'm unable to generate the "break" and "escape" signals.
Does anyone know how to do this?


Thanks in advance for any leads.


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wnr@otter.hpl.hp.com (Nigel Rea) (01/26/89)

 Hi There,
       I'm pretty sure that MacKermit is PD/Shareware because I think i have
seen it on the stanford anonymous ftp directory.
I solved the problem of sending breaks down the line by cobbling together a 
hideously messy piece of code which was installed as a DA, and could then
be accessed from withinMacKermit when needed.
I think that a similar utility was posted to comp.binaries.mac quite recently
. If that is not what you need then I may be able to find my version.

Bye


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bchurch@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU (Bob Church) (12/24/89)

Thanks to all the people that sent me information on getting the lates
version of Kermit.  I've downloaded it from sumex  but keep running into 
problems. Binhex won't  unpack it. I keep getting crc error messages  
instead. I successfully downloaded stufit  but that doesn't recognize it,
so I'm assuming that the file isn't stuffed. (why can't people come up with
better names for their  software?). Does anyone have any clues as to what the
problem is? Has anyone else successfully downloaded the copy of Mackermit that
is at sumex?
Thanks again
Bob Church
att!oucsace!bchurch

bchurch@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU (Bob Church) (12/25/89)

My apologies for cluttering this feed with a note which neither
helps in the judges decision about the xerox-apple case or even
establishes the supremacy of one computer over another.
Just a lowly note about a solvable problem. Such a waste, eh! 
Thanks to Richard Brandau and all the others who helped. I now
have a working copy of Kermit. Also, despite any misgivings about
it's name :-) I intend to send my fee for Stuffit right away. It's
a very nice program. 
Bob Church
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P.S.
Any hints or tips for configuring the vt100 terminal mode would be greatly
appreciated.

halam@umnd-cpe-cola.d.umn.edu (hasseen alam) (01/08/90)

Check to see if there is any text at the beginning, and if there is any
text or blank lines between the different parts once you join them.  I
did DL Kermit some time back v0.98 I believe the last one I got from
stanford, and it works fine.

Haseen