[comp.sys.mac] Alternatives to FTP

geoff@pmafire.UUCP (Geoff Allen) (11/28/89)

As you can tell by the .UUCP in my address above, our site is still in
the dark ages of computer networking and I can't do nifty stuff like FTP
apple or sumex to lay my hands of copious amounts of wonderful
free/shareware.  So my question is:  what alternatives are there for
those of us in my situation.  (We do get comp.binaries.mac, so that
provides some stuff, but it doesn't have the flexibility I want.)

Are there any listservers for these sites (or any others with good Mac
libraries)?  How would I use it?

Any other possibilities?

Since traffic is so high in this newsgroup, just send me e-mail, and
I'll post a summary if people are interested in seeing one.

Thanks,

Geoff

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peirce@claris.com (Michael Peirce) (11/29/89)

In article <869@pmafire.UUCP> geoff@pmafire.UUCP (Geoff Allen) writes:
>As you can tell by the .UUCP in my address above, our site is still in
>the dark ages of computer networking and I can't do nifty stuff like FTP
>apple or sumex to lay my hands of copious amounts of wonderful
>free/shareware.  So my question is:  what alternatives are there for
>those of us in my situation.  (We do get comp.binaries.mac, so that
>provides some stuff, but it doesn't have the flexibility I want.)
>
>Are there any listservers for these sites (or any others with good Mac
>libraries)?  How would I use it?
>
>Any other possibilities?

Wouldn't it be great it Apple set up a developer support BBS?  I know they
have AppleLink, but not everyone has access to this.  That's why they set
up the Internet access.

Just a simple public BBS that contained an archive of the files found on
the Internet.  People might have some big phone bills, but at least they
could get these important files if they had no other way...

Just a thought...   :-)

 Claris Corp. | Michael R. Peirce
 -------------+--------------------------------------
              | 5201 Patrick Henry Drive MS-C4
              | Box 58168
              | Santa Clara, CA 95051-8168
              | (408) 987-7319
              | AppleLink: peirce1
              | Internet:  peirce@claris.com
              | uucp:      {ames,decwrl,apple,sun}!claris!peirce

wilkins@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Mark Wilkins) (11/29/89)

In article <10701@claris.com> peirce@claris.com (Michael Peirce) writes:

>Wouldn't it be great it Apple set up a developer support BBS?  I know they
>have AppleLink, but not everyone has access to this.  That's why they set
>up the Internet access.

  How 'bout a BBS with telephone AND internet access?  Shouldn't be too hard
to do.


  -- Mark Wilkins
     wilkins@jarthur.claremont.edu

ALE101@PSUVM.BITNET (Allen Edmiston) (11/29/89)

In article <3292@jarthur.Claremont.EDU>, wilkins@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Mark
Wilkins) says:
>
>In article <10701@claris.com> peirce@claris.com (Michael Peirce) writes:
>
>>Wouldn't it be great it Apple set up a developer support BBS?  I know they
>>have AppleLink, but not everyone has access to this.  That's why they set
>>up the Internet access.
>
>  How 'bout a BBS with telephone AND internet access?  Shouldn't be too hard
>to do.
>
>
>  -- Mark Wilkins
>     wilkins@jarthur.claremont.edu

with 10 lines and an 800 number? :) of course, that would mean using 5 macs,
or one/two ibms ... eh, five macs are better than 20 ibms.

res-nova-software@cup.portal.com (Greg Paul Herlihy) (12/01/89)

Allen Edmiston writes:
>In article <3292@jarthur.Claremont.EDU>, wilkins@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Mark
>Wilkins) says:
>>
>>In article <10701@claris.com> peirce@claris.com (Michael Peirce) writes:
>>
>>>Wouldn't it be great it Apple set up a developer support BBS?  I know they
>>>have AppleLink, but not everyone has access to this.  That's why they set
>>>up the Internet access.
>>
>>  How 'bout a BBS with telephone AND internet access?  Shouldn't be too hard
>>to do.
>>
>>
>>  -- Mark Wilkins
>>     wilkins@jarthur.claremont.edu

>with 10 lines and an 800 number? :) of course, that would mean using 5 macs,
>or one/two ibms ... eh, five macs are better than 20 ibms.

I couldn't let this go by. :)

There's no reason you couldn't run a multiline BBS, say with six or 
seven lines, from a Mac II. All you need are some internal modems
or serial port cards.

Naturally you would need software capable of handling a multi-node,
multi-tasking environment. Of course, it would be nice if this software
featured point-and-click graphics, real-time conferencing, an e-mail
system, flat and hierarchical message bases, file libraries, external
applications, VT100 support, unlimited access levels and color.

Of course, I won't mention the name of this remarkable software,
nor its company, lest it be construed as a commercial promotion. :-)

Greg Herlihy   
Res Nova Software, Inc.

dac@zehntel.zehntel.com (Dennis Carlson) (12/02/89)

In article <869@pmafire.UUCP> geoff@pmafire.UUCP (Geoff Allen) writes:
>As you can tell by the .UUCP in my address above, our site is still in
>the dark ages of computer networking and I can't do nifty stuff like FTP
>apple or sumex 
>
>Since traffic is so high in this newsgroup, just send me e-mail, and
>I'll post a summary if people are interested in seeing one.

 I could use the same information, If there is an alternate method.

 The opinions here are true. The author, however, is the product  
 of a demented imagination.	        ucbvax-\
 		   	                sun-----}-!zehntel!dac
			                varian-/

reynhout@wpi.wpi.edu (D Andrew Reynhout) (12/06/89)

   To the people looking for a multi-line/node multitasking BBS run by Apple
for developer support, and shrugging it off as an impossibilty given only two
serial ports...

   With a Mac II or better, a few serial cards, and NovaLink...it CAN be done!
A great BBS program, that.  I ran one for almost two years, and only gave up on
it when I was forced to resume my academic career in a distant locale.

   I speak only as an (overwhelmingly) satisfied user.

   Andrew

-- 
  Andrew Reynhout   (Internet: reynhout@wpi.wpi.edu)

  "Maybe if we pretend this never happened, they'll all just...go away."
                                           - Laurie Anderson

rsutc@fornax.UUCP (Rick Sutcliffe) (12/09/89)

Can someone enlighten me as to what FTP is anyway?  It's an ignorant
question, I know, but I'm new to the news here. (Never had time before)
Rick Sutcliffe

geoff@pmafire.UUCP (Geoff Allen) (01/09/90)

I wrote:
>Use the listserver at Rice.  It mirrors the archive at Sumex, but is
>about a week behind.  You can reach it at
>
>LISTSERV@ricevml.rice.edu (or uunet!ricevml.rice.edu!LISTSERV)
>
>(Actually, the address I was given in the e-mailed advice was
>uunet!isca.rice.edu!LISTSERV, and that's what I used, but the return
>address on the messages from the listserver was
>ricevml.rice.edu!LISTSERV)

Unfortunately, when I typed the above, I was looking at a printed copy
of the mail I'd gotten from the listserver, and the printer made no
distinction between 1 (`one') and l (lower case `L').  It looked like an
`ell' to me, and that's what I typed.

I was wrong, however.  It should be a 1 (one).  So the correct address is:

LISTSERV@ricevm1.rice.edu  <or>  ricevm1.rice.edu!LISTSERV

Sorry for any confusion that may have caused anyone who tried the
address I typed.

Geoff

-- 
Geoff Allen                  \  WINCO doesn't believe in Macs, 
{uunet|bigtex}!pmafire!geoff  \  so of course these are my views.
ucdavis!egg-id!pmafire!geoff   \