mart@csri.toronto.edu (Mart Molle) (01/09/90)
In article <104950@ti-csl.csc.ti.com> martin@m2.csc.ti.com (Steven Martin) writes: >I only have one problem with the copy protection on Pirates. When I >insert the key disk, my IIci crashes. It worked fine on the II. >Wouldn't it be funny if the game works fine on the IIci but the copy >protection is the only thing that is making it crash. > I haven't tried Pirates!, but I did try to buy "Where in the World is Carmen San Diego" (I hope I spelled that right...) for my kids for Christmas. It was completely unusable on the IIci due to the copy protection. You couldn't boot from the game disk, because it was not 6.0.4 (machine bombs). And, you couldn't boot the Mac and insert the master game disk and run it because of the copy protection. Running from the *master* game disk resulted in the master disk being ejected, with a dialog box asking for the original disk to be inserted. When we (re-)inserted the master disk, it spit out the disk again, brought up the same dialog box, ad infinitum. My guess was that the copy protection scheme depended on side effects from (mis)using a standard floppy (e.g., record data at wrong speed, or look for some particular error code when bipassing the OS to read a specific block), and the IIci, of course, has the new 1.44Mb superdrive. My kids were very disappointed, but I had no choice but to return the game and get my money back. (Sigh.) BTW, there was a lot of flamage a couple of weeks ago wrt one person's bad experiences with SimCity. He complained that it wouldn't work, and lots of others jumped in that he was wrong because it worked fine for them. I wonder if that was caused by a floppy drive problem too... Mart L. Molle Computer Systems Research Institute University of Toronto Toronto, Canada M5S 1A4 (416)978-4928
heap@bmc.uu.se (01/11/90)
In article <1990Jan9.101740.6806@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, mart@csri.toronto.edu (Mart Molle) writes: > In article <104950@ti-csl.csc.ti.com> martin@m2.csc.ti.com (Steven Martin) writes: >>I only have one problem with the copy protection on Pirates. When I >>insert the key disk, my IIci crashes. It worked fine on the II. >>Wouldn't it be funny if the game works fine on the IIci but the copy >>protection is the only thing that is making it crash. >> > I haven't tried Pirates!, but I did try to buy "Where in the World is Carmen > San Diego" (I hope I spelled that right...) for my kids for Christmas. It > was completely unusable on the IIci due to the copy protection. You couldn't > boot from the game disk, because it was not 6.0.4 (machine bombs). And, you > couldn't boot the Mac and insert the master game disk and run it because of > the copy protection. [stuff deleted] > BTW, there was a lot of flamage a couple of weeks ago wrt one person's bad > experiences with SimCity. He complained that it wouldn't work, and lots of > others jumped in that he was wrong because it worked fine for them. I wonder > if that was caused by a floppy drive problem too... > A friend of mine bought SimCity 1.1, and it didn't run on his MacIIci, the machine kept asking for the masterdisk...it ran fine though on my plus, so guess who he gave the game to;-) But seriously, whats the difference between the colour SimCity as advertised in the box and SimCity Supreme as seen in ads? Is it the same program, but differently titled? Does it *r*u*n* on the IIci???? -- koenig@pelle.tdb.uu.se -- Karl-Koenig Koenigsson, Uppsala, Sweden (NB. not the same name as in the header!)
cshotton@buster.irby.com (Chuck Shotton) (01/11/90)
The color version of SimCity does NOT run on the IIci. It has conflicts with 32 bit QuickDraw, and since the IIci has that in ROM, there isn't much you can do. I've called Maxis and updates for IIci owners will be available "Real Soon Now."