[comp.sys.mac] Bible search programs

hardin@mcc.com (John Hardin) (01/17/90)

I'm looking for a *fast*, intuitive Bible search program for the Mac.
Any pointers?  (I've seen both macBible and TheWORD.  I've heard of a
Hypercard stack...yes?)

[As an aside, macBible is fast, but not as capable as TheWORD.
TheWORD has *lots* of capabilities, but alas lacks in both speed and
user interface.]

Thanks for any and all help.
-jwh

P.S.  I've heard that there is a public domain version of the King
James version of the Bible (text).  Can anyone substantiate this
rumor?  (If so, can you tell me *where* it's located?  Thanks, again.)
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fiddler%concertina@Sun.COM (Steve Hix) (01/18/90)

In article <5373@cadillac.CAD.MCC.COM>, hardin@mcc.com (John Hardin) writes:
> I'm looking for a *fast*, intuitive Bible search program for the Mac.
> Any pointers?  (I've seen both macBible and TheWORD.  I've heard of a
> Hypercard stack...yes?)

HyperBible might fit the bill.  Either KJV or NIV, includes Thompson Chain
Reference and some other more or less useful items.  It's a lot faster
than TheWord.

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"...Then anyone who leaves behind him a written manual, and likewise
anyone who receives it, in the belief that such writing will be clear
and certain, must be exceedingly simple-minded..."

		Plato, _Phaedrus_ 275d

johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (01/20/90)

/* Written  9:07 am  Jan 17, 1990 by hardin@mcc.com */
 > I'm looking for a *fast*, intuitive Bible search program for the Mac.
 > 
 > P.S.  I've heard that there is a public domain version of the King
 > James version of the Bible (text).  Can anyone substantiate this
 > rumor?  (If so, can you tell me *where* it's located?  Thanks, again.)

Yes there is a public domain version of the KJV that is available through
anonymous ftp at tank.uchicago.edu (128.135.4.27).  The file you want is
/pub/public/bible -- this is an ascii version of the KJV that is UNIX
"compress"ed and "tar"ed.  When you un"tar" the file, it gives you a separate
"compress"ed file for each book of the Bible.

If you have any questions, send me e-mail.


                                     Erik A. Johnson
                                     Graduate Student, Aero/Astro Engineering
                                     University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
                                     johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu

hodas@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Josh Hodas) (01/21/90)

In article <20200078@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu> johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>/* Written  9:07 am  Jan 17, 1990 by hardin@mcc.com */
> > I'm looking for a *fast*, intuitive Bible search program for the Mac.
> > P.S.  I've heard that there is a public domain version of the King
> > James version of the Bible (text).  Can anyone substantiate this
> > rumor?  (If so, can you tell me *where* it's located?  Thanks, again.)
>Yes there is a public domain version of the KJV that is available through
>anonymous ftp at tank.uchicago.edu (128.135.4.27).  The file you want is
>/pub/public/bible -- this is an ascii version of the KJV that is UNIX
>"compress"ed and "tar"ed.  When you un"tar" the file, it gives you a separate
>"compress"ed file for each book of the Bible.
>If you have any questions, send me e-mail.
>                                     Erik A. Johnson


A friend of mine, is just putting the finishing touches on a hypercard
based concordance. SO far it is just genesis, (which he already had the text
for) but I will be getting him the full KJV fron TANK so He will probably
go the whole route.  The stack is simple, but quite nice.

When the work is completed I will post information on how to get it.

Since it will likely be quite huge, I doubt that it will be put online
but we'll see.


Josh Hodas
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Josh Hodas    (hodas@eniac.seas.upenn.edu)
4223 Pine Street
Philadelphia, PA 19104

(215) 222-7112   (home)
(215) 898-5423   (school office)

BARRETT2@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu (01/23/90)

In article <20200078@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu>, johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu writes:

> /* Written  9:07 am  Jan 17, 1990 by hardin@mcc.com */
>> I'm looking for a *fast*, intuitive Bible search program for the Mac.
>> 
>> P.S.  I've heard that there is a public domain version of the King
>> James version of the Bible (text).  Can anyone substantiate this
>> rumor?  (If so, can you tell me *where* it's located?  Thanks, again.)
> 
> Yes there is a public domain version of the KJV that is available through
..
>                                      Erik A. Johnson
>                                      johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu

Another possibility is Parson Technology's QuickVerse.  I first ran across
QuickVerse (QV) in an ad in Compute magazine.  It is available in KJV,
NKJV, RSV , and NIV.  Cost is $49 + $5 shipping + royalty to the people who
wrote the particular version you want ($ 0,4,4,10).  Shipping is UPS ground
- mine arrived in three days. 

Capabilities?  QV is a concordance program rather than the Biblical text,
and therefore is intended for searching.  QV displays one verse at a time,
and allows browsing by moving up or down a book, chapter, or verse.  Its
best feature is its search capabilities.  One can search for a word or
complete phrase, limiting to search to a given section of the Bible.  For
example, one could search for the phrase "abraham*" with a search range of
"matt-rev", which would find all New Testament references to Abraham
(including Abraham's). Verses satisfying a search requirement, or sections
or scripture, can be exported to a text file or printed. 

Wish list?  QV would be significantly more powerful if it could search for
such things as "war | peace" (all verses containing either war or peace) or
"war & peace" (likewise, but containing both).  Also, you can't do searches
for things like "just*tion".  Since the data file (2.9 meg) contains a
concordance, it seems to me that such features would not be hard to add. 

Hopefully Parson Technology is interested in improving their product.  At
the moment, its capabilities are approximately that of a full concordance
in print.  If you are interested in browsing ( using the program to read
the Bible), then this is not the program for you.  However, with a few
added features, this could easily be the program of choice for Bible
scholar types. 

- tom barrett