[comp.sys.mac] Rolex watch for sale

douglas@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Douglas Mason) (01/16/90)

For sale:  Rolex Watch, GMT-Master with HJ[D[DJubilee bracelet.

Bought about 2 years ago, has all his papers.  Excellent condition.  I'm
selling it because I purcahed a[D[D[D[D[D[Dhased a two-tone model.

I would like to get $1100 for it, but any intereste[Ding offers will be fancied.



-Douglas T,,[D[D,[D. Mason -- douglas@ddsw1.UUCP -- MCS, Chic[D[D[D[DSomwhere in Illinois 

knapp@cs.utexas.edu (Edgar Knapp) (01/17/90)

In article <1990Jan16.144158.29649@ddsw1.MCS.COM> douglas@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Douglas Mason) writes:
>
>For sale:  Rolex Watch, GMT-Master with HJ[D[DJubilee bracelet.
>
[...]
>-Douglas T,,[D[D,[D. Mason -- douglas@ddsw1.UUCP -- MCS, Chic[D[D[D[DSomwhere in Illinois 

I don't believe it. Has comp.sys.mac become a flea market to advertise
all kinds of bullshit? Stop this nonsense or else...

Furious,

Edgar

(knapp@cs.utexas.edu)

ameet@portia.Stanford.EDU (Ameet Bhansali) (01/17/90)

In article <1990Jan16.144158.29649@ddsw1.MCS.COM> douglas@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Douglas Mason) writes:
>
>For sale:  Rolex Watch, GMT-Master with HJ[D[DJubilee bracelet.
>

Are you out of your mind?!!  Please use your common sense before you
post such articles!!

Ameet Bhansali

richard@gryphon.COM (Richard Sexton) (01/18/90)

In article <7606@cs.utexas.edu> knapp@cs.utexas.edu (Edgar Knapp) writes:
>In article <1990Jan16.144158.29649@ddsw1.MCS.COM> douglas@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Douglas Mason) writes:
>>
>>For sale:  Rolex Watch, GMT-Master with HJ[D[DJubilee bracelet.
>>
>[...]
>>-Douglas T,,[D[D,[D. Mason -- douglas@ddsw1.UUCP -- MCS, Chic[D[D[D[DSomwhere in Illinois 
>
>I don't believe it. Has comp.sys.mac become a flea market to advertise
>all kinds of bullshit? Stop this nonsense or else...
>
>Furious,
>
>Edgar
>
>(knapp@cs.utexas.edu)

HI! I AM BIFF. I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED A ROLEX WATCH. THEY ARE REAL NEAT 
AND I'VE HEARS THEY ARE REAL ACCURATE. CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT THIS
WATCH ? IS IT ONE OF THE ONES WITH THE KNOBS ON THE SIDE ? DOES IT HAVE
A DATE ? (WISH I DID :-( :-) IT IS A REAL ONE, RIGHT ? HOW DO WE KNOW
IT'S A REAL ONE ? I'VE HEARD THERE A LOT OF COPIES AROUND. WELL GOTTA
GO. SEE YOU ON THIS BBOARD LATER.

LATER,
BIFF@BIT.NET
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BIFF@BIT.NET            BIFF@PSUVMA.BIT.NET            BIFF@PORTAL.CUP.COM

eww@attctc.Dallas.TX.US (Ellis Webb) (01/18/90)

In article <8315@portia.Stanford.EDU>, ameet@portia.Stanford.EDU (Ameet Bhansali) writes:
> In article <1990Jan16.144158.29649@ddsw1.MCS.COM> douglas@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Douglas Mason) writes:
> >
> >For sale:  Rolex Watch, GMT-Master with HJ[D[DJubilee bracelet.
> >
> 
> Are you out of your mind?!!  Please use your common sense before you
> post such articles!!
> 
> Ameet Bhansali


What's wrong with the posting for the Rolex watch?

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pricked@vax1.acs.udel.EDU (Jenn-Ming Yang) (01/18/90)

In article <24886@gryphon.COM> BIFF@BIT.NET (BIFF) writes:
}In article <7606@cs.utexas.edu> knapp@cs.utexas.edu (Edgar Knapp) writes:
}>In article <1990Jan16.144158.29649@ddsw1.MCS.COM> douglas@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Douglas Mason) writes:
}>>For sale:  Rolex Watch, GMT-Master with HJ[D[DJubilee bracelet.
}>>-Douglas T,,[D[D,[D. Mason -- douglas@ddsw1.UUCP -- MCS, Chic[D[D[D[DSomwhere in Illinois 
}>
}>all kinds of bullshit? Stop this nonsense or else...
}>Edgar
}>(knapp@cs.utexas.edu)
}HI! I AM BIFF. I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED A ROLEX WATCH. THEY ARE REAL NEAT 
}AND I'VE HEARS THEY ARE REAL ACCURATE. CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT THIS
}WATCH ? IS IT ONE OF THE ONES WITH THE KNOBS ON THE SIDE ? DOES IT HAVE
}A DATE ? (WISH I DID :-( :-) IT IS A REAL ONE, RIGHT ? HOW DO WE KNOW
}IT'S A REAL ONE ? I'VE HEARD THERE A LOT OF COPIES AROUND. WELL GOTTA
}GO. SEE YOU ON THIS BBOARD LATER.
}
real rolex watches have a sweeping second hand(ie. it doesn't stop then move,
stop then move, its always moving).

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pricked@vax1.acs.udel.edu (or pricked@192.5.57.1, pricked@192.5.57.129)

ARNIE@osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu (ARNIE SKUROW) (01/18/90)

"Biff" writes that he has always wanted a Rolex watch.  They are real neat
and he hears they are real accurate."

I'll dispute that.  I have a Rolex GMT Master that I purchased as a graduation
present to myself in 1965.  From the day I took it out of the jewelry shop it
gained 1 to 2 minutes per day, even though it had a fancy chronometer 
certification certificate.

I took it back to the jeweler during the first month and had it adjusted 
rather than demand a new watch.  It came back from the jeweler adjusted in
the opposite direction; it would lose 30 to 60 seconds per day.  Not very
good when considering Rolex's hype about their superlative chronometers.

This back and forth to the dealer took place for the next six months.  The
accuracy never was brought into the few seconds per day accuracy claimed 
by Rolex.

After six months I gave up on it and accepted the inaccuracy.  In 1967, while
on a trip to Geneva, I called the Rolex factory and spoke with their service
director, explaining my problem with the watch.  He arranged a car to pick
me up at my hotel and bring me to their factory in the heart of Geneva where
I surrendered the watch for a complete overhaul at no charge.  I was also
given a discount coupon for one Rolex watch so I would not be without a 
watch.  I purchased a plain, stainless steel Rolex Oyster watch which required
daily winding.  This watch kept the claimed accuracy of a Rolex Chronometer
without being a chronometer.

I got my watch back from Rolex some 3 months later and the daily inaccuracy
was reduced to 20 seconds average.  Still unsatisfactory.

Over the ensuing years the date wheel came off its attachments several times.
I'd take it to a local dealer who would screw it up even more.  Rolex has a
policy that if an authorized Rolex dealer services a Rolex watch and does it
incorrectly, they will repair it free.  

My particular Rolex GMT Master has been back to Rolex U.S.A. in New York
on several occasions after fruitless attempts by local dealers to make it
right.  The date wheel popped off its morings around 18 months ago and I
finally quit worrying about that feature.  Two months ago the crown backed
off so I couldn't set the time.  The watch has been sitting every since
then.  I've gone back to wearing my Casio G Shock watch that I purchased for
~$35 and it hasn't lost one minute's time in the year and a half it's been
stored in a drawer.

Arnie Skurow

wiseman@tellab5.TELLABS.COM (Jeff Wiseman) (01/18/90)

In article <1990Jan16.144158.29649@ddsw1.MCS.COM> douglas@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Douglas Mason) writes:
>
>For sale:  Rolex Watch, GMT-Master with HJ[D[DJubilee bracelet.
>
>Bought about 2 years ago, has all his papers.  Excellent condition.  I'm
>selling it because I purcahed a[D[D[D[D[D[Dhased a two-tone model.
>
>I would like to get $1100 for it, but any intereste[Ding offers will be fancied.

Kinda expensive for a Desk  Accessory isn't it? :-)

-- 
Jeff Wiseman:	....uunet!tellab5!wiseman OR wiseman@TELLABS.COM

richard@gryphon.COM (Richard Sexton) (01/19/90)

In article <12559198238007@osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu> ARNIE@osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu (ARNIE SKUROW) writes:
>"Biff" writes that he has always wanted a Rolex watch.  They are real neat
>and he hears they are real accurate."
>
>I'll dispute that.  I have a Rolex GMT Master that I purchased as a graduation
>present to myself in 1965.  From the day I took it out of the jewelry shop it
>gained 1 to 2 minutes per day, even though it had a fancy chronometer 
>certification certificate.

[rest of story concerning a hopelessly inaccurate Rolex watch deleted]

You had a bad one and should perhaps have told Rolex to either keep
trying or get a new watch from them to replace it. 

The difference between a chronometer and a watch, for those who don't
know, is that the former must pass tests for accuracy in 5 different
positions (upside down, 45 degrees tilter, etc.) to a certain 
level of accuracy. If it passes, you can legally call it a chronometer.
Rolex gets 95% of the chronometer certificates, Omega and Huer get 
most of the rest, respectivly. The Omega Constellation is acually a more
accurate watch than a Rolex, but the Rolex is much more indestructible.

I had a stainless steel datejust from 76 to 80. It was never off
more than 3 seconds a day, indeed at one point I took it to the
lavish Rolex office in Toronto and told them this. A nice man
in a white lab coat said ``ZEES is not acceptible!'', took my
watch away, and came back 5 minutes later and said ``now it is
PERFECT''. It was. Even though I committed the cardinal sin of
taking it off at night, it was still more accurate than quartz LCD
watches of the day. I lost it in the ocean in 1980. 

I wouls point out however that the Timex Titanium is now just
as accurate, just as indestructible and even looks a hell of
a lot like a Rolex... for $50.

Is Rolex the best watch in the world ? Probably. It is a very
good comprimise between craftmanship and durability. 

In an absolute sense, it's the third best watch, coming
behind Vacheron et Constantine, and the #1: Patek Philippe.

Justin_Randall_Padawer@cup.portal.com (01/19/90)

For goodness sakes, he simply mixed up the two article_groups.
Fan the flames, guys, and give the system a break.
-- Randy
Justin_Randall_Padawer@cup.portal.com
 or   sun!portal!cup.portal.com!Loopy

art@loral.UUCP (Earthman Arthur Donavan) (01/20/90)

I have a pocket watch that is infintely accurate, but only twice a day.  It's
not much use any other time.

I am willing to trade it for a Rolex, or a Mac.

			Thanks;

			Arthur Donavan

DDP100@PSUVM.BITNET (01/20/90)

 Concerning this whole rolex watch mess:


   Is this an internal, battery-backed-up rolex?  If so, is it compatible
with my external hard drive?   If not, misc.forsale might be a better place
for such a posting.
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douglas@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Douglas Mason) (01/23/90)

I suppose you could read my apology for a mistake in newgroups, I had
thought I had exited one, while in another.  

Needless to say, I received a total of 133 flaming mail messages since the
original mistake.  I feel like such an idiot for being the only one, every
in history to make such a mistake.  Or at least that was my understanding
from the mail messages... ;-)

Anyways, as a person shopping around the used Macintosh market, just how
limited would I be by purchasing an old Mac 128k or a Mac512k with the old
ROM sets?  Would it be that incompatible with new software?  I have seen
several reasonable offers for the older Macintosh systems, but I am not 
sure if I should bite, or wait around for a reasonable Mac Plus system...

Any replies, mail or posted, would be apprecieated.

No more flames, please!

(Oh, and the Rolex GMT Master (1$1800 watch) and the portable cellular phone
 is still available to any of you wanting to dump off the phone...  You can
 pawn off the watch at a jewelry store for $1200 - Rolex watches are always
 in demand...)



-Douglas Mason
 douglas@ddsw1.UUCP   or   dtmason@m-net.UUCP