[comp.sys.mac] Simple "password" application?

cca@pur-phy (Charles C. Allen) (02/02/90)

I'm looking for a "password" application.  I want to be able to invoke
a password dialog on demand, after an idle period, and at startup to
discourage unwanted people from diddling with a Mac at work.  Extreme
security is not the point.  Booting off a floppy to bypass the
password scheme is OK, since the people I want to discourage aren't
malicious, they just don't know I want them to see me before using the
Mac.  Features I'm looking for:

    *	Runs as an application.  This would allow me to simply include
	it in the startup application set as well as run it on demand.
	I am of the opinion that INIT's are evil and to be avoided if
	possible.

    *	No extra bells & whistles.  Looking at the MacPassword
	documentation, I'm amazed at how cluttered it is (screen
	saver, virus detection, ack!).  Doesn't anyone follow the KISS
	principle these days?

    *	Ability to kick in after a (settable) time period.  This isn't
	absolutely necessary, but it would be nice.  The Darkness
	screen saver does this w/o resorting to INITness.

    *	The dialog should have a place to put in a "custom" PICT (or
	just static text) to tell the user who to talk to about
	getting the password (or whatever).

This certainly sounds simple to me.  Just pop up a modal dialog box
asking for the password, then exit (or switch yourself out?) when it's
given.  The password could be set in a resource in ResEdit (again, no
extreme security measures are necessary).  Any takers?

I've looked at MacPassword 3.5.1 and Password 1.2.  Both only check
for a password at startup, and since I prefer to keep the Mac on all
the time, that's not adequate.  MacPassword is also incredibly
cluttered with things I don't want.

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dixon@sagittarius.crd.ge.com (walt dixon) (02/02/90)

In a previous posting Charles Allen writes:

>I'm looking for a "password" application.  I want to be able to invoke
>a password dialog on demand, after an idle period, and at startup to
>discourage unwanted people from diddling with a Mac at work.  Extreme
>security is not the point.
[some text deleted]
>This certainly sounds simple to me.  Just pop up a modal dialog box
>asking for the password, then exit (or switch yourself out?) when it's
>given.  The password could be set in a resource in ResEdit (again, no
>extreme security measures are necessary).  Any takers?


I'm not quite sure what extreme security is,  but I would classify any
protection program that can be circumvented using the programmers switch
as insecure.

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kovar@popvax.harvard.edu (David C. Kovar) (02/03/90)

  Sorry to clutter the net but "pur-phy" isn't enough of a hostname
to send mail back.

  If you're interested in something like this, please drop me a line
and I'd be happy to discuss it with you. I know something that suits
most of your needs.

-David Kovar

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ebert@arisia.Xerox.COM (Robert Ebert) (02/03/90)

In article <3055@pur-phy> cca@pur-phy (Charles C. Allen) writes:
>I'm looking for a "password" application.
>    *	Runs as an application.

You're not looking for a "password" application at all.  The security
you talk about is so minimal it's hardly worth the trouble to even
ask the user to type something.

A simple solution would be to put a Scotch Post-It(tm) on your
Mac, asking people to see you before using it.  Simple, complete,
and no bells or whistles.  (The things you can do with post-its are
really amazing!)

As an alternative, create a document with your favorite word 
processing application.  Put it someplace useful.  Have it opened
on startup.  This is an electronic analog of a Post-It.

You might also want to check out StartScrn, an init that puts
a 'message of the day' on your screen at start time.  You've
got to click to make it go away.  I think you can find it at
sumex-aim... it was posted to comp.binaries.mac a couple of months
ago.

			--Bob

brian@padouk.ima.isc.com (Brian R. Holt) (02/03/90)

In a previous posting Charles Allen writes:
>I'm looking for a "password" application.  I want to be able to invoke
>a password dialog on demand, after an idle period, and at startup to
>discourage unwanted people from diddling with a Mac at work.  Extreme
>security is not the point.

Sounds like you just want to put a Post-it note on your screen that says:
      Please don't use my Mac without asking me.

This will give you the level of security you described, with no bells
and whistles. I do it all the time.

		=brian

P.S. Post-it is a trademark of 3M

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