mithomas@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Michael Thomas Niehaus) (01/20/90)
Today I got my first look at Windows 3.0 for MS-DOS. It is a very impressive product. The applications are still a little lacking for it, but I would expect that situation will change very rapidly. This version feels more like the Mac (although it still isn't as comfortable to me as a user). The "Program Manager" is much more like the Finder. The buttons and controls are three-dimensional like the NeXT (when is Apple going to do this?). The icons are full-color. It looks like all of the pictures I have seen of the Presentation Manager. Now I would like to see System 7.0. I would hope that Apple has something to vault back into the lead, because it looks like Windows has basically caught up (as far as the user is concerned). I'm sure many will disagree with this. But you have to see Windows 3.0 before your final judgement. -Michael -- Michael Niehaus UUCP: <backbones>!{iuvax,pur-ee}!bsu-cs!mithomas Apple Student Rep ARPA: mithomas@bsu-cs.bsu.edu Ball State University AppleLink: ST0374 (from UUCP: st0374@applelink.apple.com)
m1tdg00@fsrcs1.fed.frb.gov (Taegan D. Goddard) (01/23/90)
Just like I've always said... The PC systems let you choose: Windows or A:\> ....? With version 3 of Windows out, there will soon be little reason to use a Macintosh (with its inflated price.) O.K., 'nuff said. Taegan Goddard Washington, DC
mjkobb@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Michael J Kobb) (01/24/90)
In article <M1TDG00.90Jan23134505@fsrcs1.fed.frb.gov> m1tdg00@fsrcs1.fed.frb.gov (Taegan D. Goddard) writes: > >Just like I've always said... The PC systems let you choose: > > Windows or A:\> ....? > >With version 3 of Windows out, there will soon be little reason to use a >Macintosh (with its inflated price.) Grrr..... Just about any machine can try to look like a Macintosh. Some of them do it better than others. You can use X Windows on a VAX if you want to look like a Mac. One salient point, though: the Mac's goodies are in ROM. ROM is fast. ROM is consistent. ROM doesn't eat up RAM. My MicroVax pulls ~1.2Mb of code across the net to start X Windows. The Mac goes "bing". The point is this: The Mac was designed to be friendly. The IBM wasn't. If you want an unfriendly machine consuming gobs of memory and processor horsepower to look friendly, then be my guest. --Mike Disclaimer: I think that disclaimers are an incredibly sad statement about our society. Nonetheless, nothing that I say can or should be construed as having been said by anyone. Ever.
ifal460@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Mike Godwin) (01/25/90)
In article <M1TDG00.90Jan23134505@fsrcs1.fed.frb.gov> m1tdg00@fsrcs1.fed.frb.gov (Taegan D. Goddard) writes: > >Just like I've always said... The PC systems let you choose: > > Windows or A:\> ....? > >With version 3 of Windows out, there will soon be little reason to use a >Macintosh (with its inflated price.) > >O.K., 'nuff said. > >Taegan Goddard >Washington, DC Heh. With this kind of analysis at the Fed, is it any wonder our economy's in the kind of shape it's in? The slickest conceivable version of Windows is only a millimeter deep in comparison to the Mac interface. After all, with most PC applications running under Windows, you open up the program, and you time-travel back to 1981 America. --Mike Mike Godwin UT Law School | "... and first I put my arms around him yes mgodwin@rpp386.cactus.org | and drew him down to me so he could feel my (512) 346-4190 | breasts all perfume yes and his heart was cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!mgodwin | going like mad and yes I said yes I will Yes."
mbrown@osf.org (Mark Brown) (02/09/90)
In article <M1TDG00.90Jan23134505@fsrcs1.fed.frb.gov>, m1tdg00@fsrcs1.fed.frb.gov (Taegan D. Goddard) writes: > > Just like I've always said... The PC systems let you choose: > Windows or A:\> ....? > With version 3 of Windows out, there will soon be little reason to use a > Macintosh (with its inflated price.) yano, there's a lot of old vaporware adverts I have that all say something similar... Essentially, Windows is icing on top of DOS, hence not the real OS, hence a waste of the (admittedly powerful, not yet available) 486. Imagine what the MAC OS would be like, running directly on a 486! Pretty damn powerful, methinks... Mark Brown IBM AWD / OSF | The Good mbrown@osf.org | Shared pain is lessened. The Bad uunet!osf!mbrown| Shared happiness is increased. The Ugly (617) 621-8981 |