[comp.sys.mac] comp.sys.mac

schmidt@lsrhs.UUCP (chris schmidt) (03/16/87)

Please add my name, also, to the list of those interested in a LSC
TranSkel.  Thanks.
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pgn@osupyr.UUCP (Paul G. Nevai) (03/19/87)

I'd love to have a Pascal version of SimpleTools (preferably LSP).

briand@tekig4.TEK.COM (Brian Diehm) (10/09/87)

A quote from the Mac The Knife column in MacWeek, Oct 6, 1987:

"Ever heard of turning your weaknesses into strengths?  The promotional ad for
 Ashton-Tate's new desktop-publishing software, Byline, contains the following
 inside the front cover of the brochure: 'Because Byline works the way you do,
 you don't waste time with a mouse or learning a Macintosh-like graphics envir-
 onment.  Byline works the way PC software is supposed to work.  Familiar func-
 tions and navigational keys and predictable standard operations means that
 desktop publishing is no longer just for full-time graphics artists.'

The Knife goes on to wryly comment:

"Whew.  Just when it looked like we were all going to have this mouse-driven
 graphics interface shoved down our throats, here's Ashton-Tate to the rescue.

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-Brian Diehm     (SDA - Standard Disclaimers Apply)
Tektronix, Inc.
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flip@pixar.UUCP (Flip Phillips) (01/27/88)

Arrrrrgggggg.....

Okay, just sitting around, trying to convert some Lightspeed C code to MPW C
(To take advantage of the 68881...) 

Now, it seems Ive tried pretty much everything but I cannot get SFGetFile 
to operate correctly. In the filename field of the SFReply structure I
usually get a NULL string or garbage. Ihave tried:
	using p2cstr to convret the field
	using SFGETFILE (non-glue routine)
	
After looking in MacsBug at the thing there is a string stored in the
structure (when using the SFGetFile glue routine) that contains a length
byte (ala pascal string) tracing it through p2cstr I see the string get
eaten up, digested, disolved....

any ideas here?

sun!pixar!flip

mkhaw@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA (Mike Khaw) (06/24/88)

Are there conversion kits available to turn serial Apple HD 20 external
hard disks into SCSI hard disks?

If so, who makes them and how much does the conversion cost (ballpark)?

Thanks,
Mike Khaw
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drc@dbase.UUCP (Dennis Cohen) (06/26/88)

I just received (actually a couple of weeks ago) a flyer from PCPC, the
MacBottom/HFS Backup folks that announced a conversion kit to go from the old
(parallel, not serial) HD-20 to a SCSI HD-20.  You should contact them.  They
call it the "Wuzzy" (WSI for With SCSI Interface, redundant though Interface
might be in that name).  It retails for $295 and comes with a two-year warranty
on the circuit board and cables as well as all the PCPC software.  They are
	Personal Computer Peripherals Corp.
	4710 Eisenhower Blvd., Bldg. A
	Tampa, FL 33634

Dennis Cohen
Claris
Tools Group
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Disclaimer:  Any opinions expressed above are _MINE_!

steve@hpiacla.HP.COM (Steve Witten) (06/27/88)

Yes, PCPC makes one.  I think the cost is in the $250 range.

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clayj@microsoft.UUCP (Clay Jackson) (06/29/88)

In article <23419@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA>, mkhaw@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA (Mike Khaw) writes:
> Are there conversion kits available to turn serial Apple HD 20 external
> hard disks into SCSI hard disks?
> 
> If so, who makes them and how much does the conversion cost (ballpark)?
> 

PCPC (the outfit that makes the MacBottom drives) has a product called 
HD20-WSI that is a replacement interface board for a serial HD20.  I ordered
one (direct from them, since I could find no (reputable or otherwise)
mailorder house that stocked it or would even order it.  Someone else posted
something here a while back (in response to my query) with some benchmarks
which indicated that it was even faster than the Apple HD20 SC (which is not
really saying much).

The suggested list is $195.

I'll post something here when it shows up and I get it up.

Clay Jackson

{...microsoft!clayj}

km@cadre.dsl.PITTSBURGH.EDU (Ken Mitchum) (07/04/89)

Does anyone know how to obtain the latest ROMs for the Mac Plus? I need
to use mine with a drive which persists doing Unit Attention on reset,
and that is fixed in the latest ROM version. I understood at one time that
you could trade in your old ROMs for the labor charge only, but our local
Apple dealers don't know anything about this, and have never sucessfully
found out from Apple. 

 Ken Mitchum MD (KY3B)
 University of Pittsburgh
 Decision Systems Labs
 km@cadre.dsl.pittsburgh.edu

saw@cbnews.ATT.COM (stephen.a.wilkus) (10/22/89)

I've had a brand new MAC-II/ci now for a little over two weeks now 
(ordered the day it was announced), and thought others might be 
interested in some peculiarities I've noted.

First of all, it is fast.  The response is indeed impressive about 50% faster 
at some FFT benchmarks than my MAC-II, and Mathematica calculated Pi to 5000 
digits in 3.4 minutes instead of the 7 minutes on the Mac-II/cx.  It is 
interesting to note that these times were wht black and white graphics, the 
times are slower the more colors displayed as the graphics steals memory 
cycles from the CPU on the MAC-II/ci.

Unfortunately, I've had some problems with the SCSI port.  I have connected 
two external hard disk drives to the /ci and the machine (intermitantly) 
either failed to boot (sad MAC with 0000000F/0000001 displayed) or else it 
booted up without recognizing the hard disk. I tried various cables, 
terminators, and SCSI addresses all to no avail.  Both drives work on Mac
Pluses, Mac-II's, and MAC-II/cx's. 

The distributer replaced my computer but that didn't help any, which makes 
me think there is a design problem with the /ci.  I have since tried 
connecting a tape drive the SCSI port (IRWIN 40MByte) and to my suprise it 
worked perfectly.  Now, I (and the repairperson) are thinking that the 
/ci may Apple will not consider this a design problem but a lack of following 
the full specifications by the hard disk makers.  Sigh....


Most significant software seems to port over to the /ci fine with the exception
of the ussual collection of freeware games that fail on the most recent 
MAC generation.   I was disappointed to find that MAC-Vision 2.0, a video 
digitizer that connects to the serial port, did not work.  Koala Inc. tells me
that it doesn't yet work on the Mac-II/cx either but that they are working on
it.

The problems seem to be the sort that seems to accompany any new generation 
of computer, and are not too unanticipated, but I was disappointed to see
the hardware incompatibility with the SCSI port.

Steve Wilkus
AT&T Bell Labs,
North Andover, Ma
(508) 960-6033
att!mvusa!saw

lsr@Apple.COM (Larry Rosenstein) (10/24/89)

In article <10453@cbnews.ATT.COM> saw@cbnews.ATT.COM (stephen.a.wilkus) 
writes:
> Unfortunately, I've had some problems with the SCSI port.  I have 
connected 
> two external hard disk drives to the /ci and the machine (intermitantly) 
> either failed to boot (sad MAC with 0000000F/0000001 displayed) or else 
it 
> booted up without recognizing the hard disk. I tried various cables, 
> terminators, and SCSI addresses all to no avail.  Both drives work on Mac
> Pluses, Mac-II's, and MAC-II/cx's. 

Tech Note 258 and Inside Mac volume 5 might explain your problem.

It turns out that the ROM boot code is supposed to validate the disk 
driver by computing a checksum.  Due to a ROM bug, the checksum 
verification was never done UNTIL the Mac IIci.

The problem is that there are a number of 3rd party SCSI drivers that 
don't implement the checksum verification properly.  On the Mac IIci is 
the verification fails the driver won't be loaded and the disk won't be 
usable.

Another problem is that some SCSI drivers call SysEnvirons at boot time.  
Unfortunately, SysEnvirons is documented to require that all Toolbox 
Manager be initialized before it is called, which is not true at boot 
time.  A disk driver that calls SysEnvirons is likely to crash.  (I 
suspect that this worked on earlier machines because SysEnvirons was 
installed by a RAM patch, which means it wasn't available at boot time.  
On the Mac IIci, SysEnvirons is in ROM.)

The solution is both cases is to get an updated SCSI driver from the maker 
of your hard disk.  Generally, this is a simple software fix.  If you've 
gotten otehr SCSI devices to work, then it sounds like the SCSI hardware 
is OK.  

Larry Rosenstein, Apple Computer, Inc.
Object Specialist

Internet: lsr@Apple.com   UUCP: {nsc, sun}!apple!lsr
AppleLink: Rosenstein1

ctne_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Chris Newbold) (12/19/89)

In article <bboA02Pn75bn01@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> larry@uts.amdahl.com (Larry Hardiman) writes:
>Apple engages Xerox in 1979 to get a license to use
>the Star interface. Xerox says OK; the two companies
>come to some financial arrangement over the transaction.

Wrong.  Apple did nothing of the sort.  They just saw Xerox's work at some
introductory gathering and copied it.

>If so, then Apple's suits against Microsoft and HP may
>indeed have some merit (I'm no lawyer). If Xerox's agreement
[stuff deleted ...]
>Following this line of reason: Do Microsoft and HP have
>licenses with Xerox? Your guess is as good as mine.

Yes they do.  And if I remember right, so does Sun, and a couple of other
corporations that market GUIs.


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francis@cheops.cis.ohio-state.edu (RD Francis) (02/10/90)

I asked for help in locating a good chess program for the Mac.  I promised to
summarize to the net.  Given that a) I only got two responses (from Steve
Dorner and someone whose mail I accidentally deleted (sorry!)), and b) it's
occurred to me that there were, perhaps, more appropriate places to ask
(especially rec.games.chess), I'll keep this short.

There are three Mac chess programs that I know of:  Psion, Sargon IV, and
ChessMaster 2000 (soon to be 2100).  Basically, there is no general consensus
as to which one to get.  All play well.  In fact, all seem to play too well to
be much help at all to beginners.  Sargon IV gives the player the option to
ask the computer to suggest/make a move for him; the others may or may not
have this option.  This is as close to a tutorial as any of them get.  Sargon
IV has neat graphics.  Sargon IV is what I ended up buying, but I may end up
selling it/returning it, since it's no help if you're not already pretty darn
good at chess.


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