fry@brauer.harvard.edu (Goggles Paizsano) (02/10/90)
FOR SALE: One Mass Microsystems Data-Pak 45 megabyte removable hard disk. It's about 1.5 years old, but it was mainly used as a backup device, so it hasn't seen much use and it's in fine condition. It comes with full documentation and software, plus cables. As bonus I'll include three 45 megabyte cartridges. On those cartridges the lucky buyer will find my personal collection of Macintosh image files, more than 40 megabytes on mostly 256 color PICT files, plus some MacPaint files, featuring a wide variety of subjects (cars, planes, trains, animals, famous people, women, art works, etc.). Price: $800. Includes shipping by 2nd Day UPS in the United States. Please respond by e-mail, or call 617-547-0814. David Fry fry@huma1.harvard.EDU Department of Mathematics fry@huma1.bitnet Harvard University ...!harvard!huma1!fry Cambridge, MA 02138
MURDOK.THE.MERCILESS@f54.n382.z1.FIDONET.ORG (MURDOK THE MERCILESS) (02/12/90)
new 45 meg removables are sellling for $750 -- MURDOK THE MERCILESS via cmhGate - Net 226 fido<=>uucp gateway Col, OH UUCP: ...!osu-cis!n8emr!cmhgate!382!54!MURDOK.THE.MERCILESS INET: MURDOK.THE.MERCILESS@f54.n382.z1.FIDONET.ORG
fry@brauer.harvard.edu (Goggles Paizsano) (02/13/90)
In article <41144.25D6F695@cmhgate.FIDONET.ORG> MURDOK.THE.MERCILESS@f54.n382.z1.FIDONET.ORG (MURDOK THE MERCILESS) writes: >new 45 meg removables are sellling for $750 *Ehman* drives, which are thought to be of lesser quality than Mass Micros, are selling for $750. Mass Micros list for over $1800. Also, I'm offering 3 hard drive cartridges cartridges which retail for $150 a piece (plus a huge library of digitized photographs!). The value of different items is open to debate, but you can't complain to Mercedes for selling their cars for six times the price of a Hyundai. David Fry fry@huma1.harvard.EDU Department of Mathematics fry@huma1.bitnet Harvard University ...!harvard!huma1!fry Cambridge, MA 02138
dnagent@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU (Mark D Phillips) (02/13/90)
In article <1573@husc6.harvard.edu> fry@brauer.harvard.edu (Goggles Paizsano) writes: >*Ehman* drives, which are thought to be of lesser quality >than Mass Micros, are selling for $750. Mass Micros list >for over $1800. Also, I'm offering 3 hard drive cartridges >cartridges which retail for $150 a piece (plus a huge library >of digitized photographs!). I know a few Mass Micro cartridge drive owners, and while they are quite happy (or at least last I spoke with them they were) they have often admitted that the Mass Micros were very overpriced, and were very glad to have bought them before the big price jumps that happened a long while back. So tell us, what does Mass Micro do that Ehman doesn't? What is it about the Mass Micro drives that makes them worth over *twice* the price of the Ehmans? .
etaw302@ut-emx.UUCP (Allen Wessels) (02/14/90)
APS offers the Syquest unit for $659, and carts are 72.50 with the purchase of the drive. All the 45 removables have the same basic mechanism, so the difference between companies is burn-in time, assembly, software, and service from the company. The phone number for APS is 1-800-233-7550. (I am in no way affiliated with APS.)
chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (02/14/90)
Why isn't this discussion in comp.sys.mac.hardware? -- Chuq Von Rospach <+> chuq@apple.com <+> [This is myself speaking] Rumour has it that Larry Wall, author of RN, is a finalist in the race for the Nobel Peace Prize for his invention of the kill file.
etaw302@ut-emx.UUCP (Allen Wessels) (02/14/90)
The Mass Micro Datapak (45 meg removable Syquest) has a suggested list of $1499. This includes one cartridge and the SUM II utility. Anyone who has access to this newsgroup and still pays list ought to be reduced in rank to novice user and have his/her keyboard broken in half.
bjb@pyramid.com (Bruce Beare) (02/14/90)
In article <1573@husc6.harvard.edu> fry@brauer.harvard.edu (Goggles Paizsano) writes: > In article <41144.25D6F695@cmhgate.FIDONET.ORG> MURDOK.THE.MERCILESS@f54.n382.z1.FIDONET.ORG (MURDOK THE MERCILESS) writes: > >new 45 meg removables are sellling for $750 > > *Ehman* drives, which are thought to be of lesser quality > than Mass Micros, are selling for $750. Mass Micros list > for over $1800. Also, I'm offering 3 hard drive cartridges > cartridges which retail for $150 a piece (plus a huge library > of digitized photographs!). > > The value of different items is open to debate, but you can't > complain to Mercedes for selling their cars for six times the price > of a Hyundai. > > David Fry fry@huma1.harvard.EDU > Department of Mathematics fry@huma1.bitnet > Harvard University ...!harvard!huma1!fry > Cambridge, MA 02138 True, Mass Micro drives may LIST for $1800, but that does not reflect either their quality, or their street price. ALL of these drives use the same drive mechanisms and cartridges (I get them for $90 each). The differences are largely in the case and the power supply. Note, that the new drives come with one cartridge -- so you are only 'giving away' two carts. I simply won't accept that a better power supply is worth $1050 ($1800 - $750). BTW, as I posted a couple of weeks ago, you can get the Ehman drives for $600 if you ask for Stephanie or Rose when you call -- tell them that you develop software for the Mac (I don't think that you need to be an apple partner, but it might be helpful to have some proof [APDA membership?]). Bruce Beare bjb@pyramid.com [my only connection with Ehman is as a satisfied customer of ~1 month].
fiddler@concertina.Sun.COM (Steve Hix) (02/14/90)
In article <1573@husc6.harvard.edu>, fry@brauer.harvard.edu (Goggles Paizsano) writes: > In article <41144.25D6F695@cmhgate.FIDONET.ORG> MURDOK.THE.MERCILESS@f54.n382.z1.FIDONET.ORG (MURDOK THE MERCILESS) writes: > >new 45 meg removables are sellling for $750 > > *Ehman* drives, which are thought to be of lesser quality > than Mass Micros, are selling for $750. Mass Micros list > for over $1800. Also, I'm offering 3 hard drive cartridges > cartridges which retail for $150 a piece (plus a huge library > of digitized photographs!). Both Ehman (and Cutting Edge, for perhaps non-obvious reasons) and Mass Micro use the same Syquest mechanism for their 45 removables. I think normal prices for the MM drives are closer to $1200 around here. > The value of different items is open to debate, but you can't > complain to Mercedes for selling their cars for six times the price > of a Hyundai. I'll bet you could if they were using Hyundai engines! ------------ "...Then anyone who leaves behind him a written manual, and likewise anyone who receives it, in the belief that such writing will be clear and certain, must be exceedingly simple-minded..." Plato, _Phaedrus_
urlichs@smurf.ira.uka.de (02/15/90)
Would you please post hardware-related stuff (and this includes for-sale offers) to comp.sys.mac.hardware? Thank you. (Followups have been redirected there.) In comp.sys.mac, article <1573@husc6.harvard.edu>, fry@brauer.harvard.edu (Goggles Paizsano) writes: < In article <41144.25D6F695@cmhgate.FIDONET.ORG> MURDOK.THE.MERCILESS@f54.n382.z1.FIDONET.ORG (MURDOK THE MERCILESS) writes: < >new 45 meg removables are sellling for $750 < < *Ehman* drives, which are thought to be of lesser quality < than Mass Micros, are selling for $750. Mass Micros list < for over $1800. Also, I'm offering 3 hard drive cartridges < cartridges which retail for $150 a piece (plus a huge library < of digitized photographs!). < The price difference between MassMicro and Ehman is interesting, because both use the Syquest mechanism. Maybe MassMicro has a better power supply, or a better driver (I have a MassMicro myself, using a well-written driver from a German company that also puts Syquests into housings w/ power supplies, and I kind of doubt the latter). Anyway, wanting $1000 more than Ehman means that they have a _big_ profit margin. -- Matthias Urlichs
yossie@marque.mu.edu (02/15/90)
Well, after reading someone's recomendation and prices of APS drives, I called them up. They have an ever better deal now: The drive+cartridge is $699, every extra cartridge is $76 (If you insist, you can get them for the old $72.50 price!!). I ordered the drive and four extra cartridges for $1008.30 (including second day shipping!). I think that is a pretty damn good deal! Whoever sent their number, thank you. NOTHING in MacWorld was even close (well, there were some who had the same deal for $50 more, or so). Details of drive: Metal case, external SCSI address select, 30 Day money back guarenty, 2 year warrenty on drive, 1 on cartridges, internal termination (resistor packs, easily removable, but not external, sigh), NEW syquest roms - 20ms access time (though the salesman was dubious of this claim, hee hee), two 50-pin SCSI ports (ooops, I forgot to ask them if it comes with a cable, but I assume it does, or hope so anyway!). Have fun people... Oh, their number is 1-800-233-7550 - Yossie
fozzard@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Richard Fozzard) (02/16/90)
In article <9658@marque.mu.edu> yossie@marque.mu.edu (Yossie Silverman) writes: >Well, after reading someone's recomendation and prices of APS drives, I called >them up. They have an ever better deal now: The drive+cartridge is $699, There is an even better deal if you are (or have a friend who is) a Mac developer. Ehman Engineering is offering theirs for $599 (w/ one cartridge) until Feb 28th if you have developer's #. Buy extra cartridges elswhere, though; they want $99 and you can find any number of places that sell them under $80. I just got mine and it is a very sweet unit. My only complaint is that the fan is annoyingly loud. Their phone is 800-257-1666. The only thing they ask is that you tell others about their product, which I gladly do! rich ======================================================================== Richard Fozzard "Serendipity empowers" Univ of Colorado/CIRES/NOAA R/E/FS 325 Broadway, Boulder, CO 80303 fozzard@boulder.colorado.edu (303)497-6011 or 444-3168
MURDOK.THE.MERCILESS@f54.n382.z1.FIDONET.ORG (MURDOK THE MERCILESS) (02/16/90)
There several 45 meg removables selling for around $750 to $800 and besides all 45 meg removables are syquest mechanisms so essential they and all the same drive. If you buy a new Ehman you get a two year warranty (3 if you use your VISA or AmEx). Also the cartridges are currently selling for $90 to $100 and I can download all the pictures I want from my local BBS for free! -- MURDOK THE MERCILESS via cmhGate - Net 226 fido<=>uucp gateway Col, OH UUCP: ...!osu-cis!n8emr!cmhgate!382!54!MURDOK.THE.MERCILESS INET: MURDOK.THE.MERCILESS@f54.n382.z1.FIDONET.ORG