gshapiro@wpi.wpi.edu (Gregory N. Shapiro) (10/23/89)
I am having a problem installing System 6.04 on my Mac Plus. Everytime I install it (custom installation for all Mac Models), everything goes ok until I try to boot. I get the Welcome to Macintosh message for about 5 seconds then a dialog box telling me the System file may be damaged and to use the Installer to correct this. I have used the Installer 4 times with no avail. This happens on both of my hard drives (Apple 40SC (Quantum ProDrive) and Ehman Engineering 60+ (Seagate 277N)). Has anybody had similiar problems??? Any suggestions??? Greg ____________________________________________________________________________ Gregory Shapiro Gregory Shapiro Worcester Polytechnic Institute Worcester Polytechnic Institute GSHAPIRO@WPI.WPI.EDU (130.215.24.1) Box 1397 GSHAPIRO@WPI.BITNET 100 Institute Road GEnie: GShapiro Worcester, Massachusetts 01609 MacNet: GShapiro United States ____________________________________________________________________________
macman@wpi.wpi.edu (Christopher Silverberg) (10/24/89)
In article <4970@wpi.wpi.edu> gshapiro@wpi.wpi.edu (Gregory N. Shapiro) writes: >I am having a problem installing System 6.04 on my Mac Plus. I believe system 6.04 was designed for use with the new Portable Mac, and may not be compatible with the Plus. But i'm sure someone will be able to give you a better answer than this. -- ============================================================================== (.) (.) | Chris Silverberg, WPI Box 719 | BBS Sysop: Main Street U.S.A u | USENET: macman@wpi.wpi.edu | 2400 baud - (508) 832-7725 \___/ | BITNET: macman@wpi.bitnet | Fido: 322/575 - Red Ryder Host
gshapiro@wpi.wpi.edu (Gregory N. Shapiro) (10/24/89)
In article <4979@wpi.wpi.edu>, macman@wpi.wpi.edu (Christopher Silverberg) writes: > In article <4970@wpi.wpi.edu> gshapiro@wpi.wpi.edu (Gregory N. Shapiro) writes: > >I am having a problem installing System 6.04 on my Mac Plus. > > I believe system 6.04 was designed for use with the new Portable Mac, and > may not be compatible with the Plus. But i'm sure someone will be able to give > you a better answer than this. > System 6.04 is designed to work on all Macs, just as the rest of the System 6 line did. It works booting off floppy and switch launching to the hard drive (Command-Option-Double Click on Finder) but refuses to boot off the Hard Drives. Greg ____________________________________________________________________________ Gregory Shapiro Gregory Shapiro Worcester Polytechnic Institute Worcester Polytechnic Institute GSHAPIRO@WPI.WPI.EDU (130.215.24.1) Box 1397 GSHAPIRO@WPI.BITNET 100 Institute Road GEnie: GShapiro Worcester, Massachusetts 01609 MacNet: GShapiro United States ____________________________________________________________________________
isle@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Ken Hancock) (10/24/89)
In article <4979@wpi.wpi.edu> ghapiro@wpi.wpi.edu (Gregory N. Shapiro) writes: >In article <4970@wpi.wpi.edu> gshapiro@wpi.wpi.edu (Gregory N. Shapiro) writes: >>I am having a problem installing System 6.04 on my Mac Plus. > >I believe system 6.04 was designed for use with the new Portable Mac, and >may not be compatible with the Plus. But i'm sure someone will be able to give >you a better answer than this. Beg to differ. 6.0.4 installed with no problems on my MacPlus. 6.0.4 is compatible with MacPlus - Mac IIci. On an aside, can someone from Apple confirm that the floppy drive head-parking before eject fix has been included in 6.0.4? If not, I'll stick with SafeEject for now. Thanks -- Ken -- Ken Hancock '90 | E-mail: (BITNET/UUCP/INTERNET) Computer Resource Center Consultant | isle@eleazar.dartmouth.edu -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER? I don't get paid enough to worry about disclaimers.
chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (10/24/89)
>>I believe system 6.04 was designed for use with the new Portable Mac, and >>may not be compatible with the Plus. But i'm sure someone will be able to give >>you a better answer than this. This is a great example of why, if you aren't sure of the answer, you should simply stay quiet and let someone who is sure answer. Publicly saying "I don't know." doesn't answer the question, and answering it wrong simply adds to the confusion. >Beg to differ. 6.0.4 installed with no problems on my MacPlus. 6.0.4 >is compatible with MacPlus - Mac IIci. True. 6.0.4 is compatible with everything 6.0.3 was compatible with, plus the IIci and the Portable. I haven't tried it on my 512ke yet, but I expect it'll work there, too, since 6.0.3 works. >On an aside, can someone from Apple confirm that the floppy drive >head-parking before eject fix has been included in 6.0.4? If not, >I'll stick with SafeEject for now. Yes, they *did* fix it. It's in the release notes somewhere. -- Chuq Von Rospach <+> Editor,OtherRealms <+> Member SFWA/ASFA chuq@apple.com <+> CI$: 73317,635 <+> [This is myself speaking] Trust Mama Nature to remind us just how important things like sci.aquaria's name really is in the scheme of things.
c8s-an@franny.Berkeley.EDU (Alex Lau) (10/24/89)
In article <4970@wpi.wpi.edu> gshapiro@wpi.wpi.edu (Gregory N. Shapiro) writes: >I am having a problem installing System 6.04 on my Mac Plus. >Everytime I install it (custom installation for all Mac Models), >everything goes ok until I try to boot. I get the Welcome to >Macintosh message for about 5 seconds then a dialog box telling me the >System file may be damaged and to use the Installer to correct this. >I have used the Installer 4 times with no avail. This happens on both >of my hard drives (Apple 40SC (Quantum ProDrive) and Ehman Engineering 60+ >(Seagate 277N)). Has anybody had similiar problems??? Any suggestions??? > Greg Check for viruses; I've heard of this problem before, and it was solved then by finding and eliminating an nVIR virus. It seems Apple has put in some virus-checking code, but they never told anyone about it, and they didn't do it correctly either. --- Alex (not at home machine, no .sig) fodder fodder
mjkobb@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Michael J Kobb) (10/24/89)
In article <4980@wpi.wpi.edu> gshapiro@wpi.wpi.edu (Gregory N. Shapiro) writes: > System 6.04 is designed to work on all Macs, just as the rest >of the System 6 line did. It works booting off floppy and switch >launching to the hard drive (Command-Option-Double Click on Finder) >but refuses to boot off the Hard Drives. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ WHAT!!!!???!?!??! Could you elaborate on that last statement a bit? I hope you don't mean that 6.0.4 can't be launched from a hard disk. I'd say that wouldn't be very usable, wouldn't you? :-) --Mike
hpoppe@bierstadt.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe) (10/25/89)
In article <35858@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes: >... >>On an aside, can someone from Apple confirm that the floppy drive >>head-parking before eject fix has been included in 6.0.4? If not, >>I'll stick with SafeEject for now. > >Yes, they *did* fix it. It's in the release notes somewhere. I copied the document "Change History 6.0.4" from apple.com and did not see mention of this fix there. The only thing vaguely related was a Finder fix: "Fixed a bug which caused disk insertion events to be missed on Macintosh Plus." I would assume that "head-parking before eject" would be a driver level fix. So, can we do without SafeEject or not? I don't care to rip another head out of my Sony drive. Herb Poppe NCAR INTERNET: hpoppe@ncar.ucar.edu (303) 497-1296 P.O. Box 3000 CSNET: hpoppe@ncar.CSNET Boulder, CO 80307 UUCP: hpoppe@ncar.UUCP
chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (10/25/89)
> >>On an aside, can someone from Apple confirm that the floppy drive > >>head-parking before eject fix has been included in 6.0.4? > So, can we do without SafeEject or not? I don't care to rip another > head out of my Sony drive. Just to make sure, I went over to Applelink and got the real data. If you're running the new machines (IIci, Portable and IIcx) the fix for this is in ROM. The fix is also installed in 6.0.4 (for hardcore hacker types, it's implemented as resource 'ptch=7'). So if you are running 6.0.4, you do not need SafeEject. -- Chuq Von Rospach <+> Editor,OtherRealms <+> Member SFWA/ASFA chuq@apple.com <+> CI$: 73317,635 <+> [This is myself speaking] Trust Mama Nature to remind us just how important things like sci.aquaria's name really is in the scheme of things.
6600pete@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (GurgleKat [Pete Gontier]) (02/21/90)
I'm probably the only one who feels this way, but conformity be damned! I don't like the new System Installer. Primarily, I don't like the fact that I can't figure what to put on a hard disk volume so that I can do installations for any machine onto floppies without swapping disks in and out of my own floppy drive. On one hand, it means I can remove the Installer partition from my drive and get some more space, but on the other hand installations are going to be a pain from here on out. I was also pretty peeved when the Installer appeared to be replacing my Scrapbook, but was later relieved to find out that it wasn't. Finally, I don't like the way that I actually have to scroll the Custom installation list a few pages before I arrive at the SE/30 option. What was so terrible about the Installer the way it was? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pete Gontier | InterNet: 6600pete@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu, BitNet: 6600pete@ucsbuxa Editor, Macker | Online Macintosh Programming Journal; mail for subscription Hire this kid | Mac, DOS, C, Pascal, asm, excellent communication skills