kingman@tci.bell-atl.com (Matt Kingman) (02/10/90)
Here are some SunDesk hints that I recieved from Frederic Miserey on AppleLink. /Matt ---------- SunDesk hints : I do apologize not to use the color setting when displaying the color icon. To add a color icon, paste the ICN# and an icl8 with the same ID. I'm sorry but I can't recognize an icl8 in an application : I'm not the Finder ; you'll have to add it to SunDesk Icons. icl8 (along with icl4, ics4 & ics8) will be used by Finder 7.0 as written in the System 7.0 binder that was given to us during WWDC 89. Please note that when you add new icons in SunDesk icons, the sysz is recomputed in SunDesk file. That's why after a huge add you'll see a crossed umbrella : Simply reboot as the sysz is properly updated. You can change the darkness factor in SunDesk Icons : the PERC resource contains the dimmed factor ; the default value is 680 : an hilited color has its brightness lowered to 68% of the original. All this needs a doc but I've no time for this. Yours, Frederic. AL: KORTEX General Discussion:Developers Ask Each Other:Developer Services -- Matt Kingman - Systems Engineer kingman@tci.bell-atl.com Technology Concepts Inc. ...!uunet!tci!kingman Sudbury, MA. 01776 (508)443-7311 TCI is not responsible for my opinions, nor I for theirs...
jtn@potomac.ads.com (John T. Nelson) (02/17/90)
In article <672@tci.bell-atl.com>, kingman@tci.bell-atl.com (Matt Kingman) writes: > > I do apologize not to use the color setting when displaying the > color icon. To add a color icon, paste the ICN# and an icl8 with > the same ID. > I'm sorry but I can't recognize an icl8 in an application : I'm not the > Finder ; you'll have to add it to SunDesk Icons. > > All this needs a doc but I've no time for this. Better get SOME kind of doc out soon. I couldn't make heads or tails of that posting. What is SunDesk? An INIT? A CDEV? A replacement for the Finder? What auxillerly files does it use? How is it activated? What in blazes does it even DO?
truesdel@ics.uci.edu (Scott Truesdell) (02/17/90)
jtn@potomac.ads.com (John T. Nelson) writes: >Better get SOME kind of doc out soon. I couldn't make heads or tails >of that posting. First, Frederic is French, so sometimes his English is a little opaque :-) He works on non-free software for a living and is a very busy person. Let me try and help. >What is SunDesk? An INIT? A CDEV? A replacement >for the Finder? What auxillerly files does it use? How is it >activated? SunDesk is an INIT that enables the Finder to show color icons. The color icons are kept in a file called SunDesk Icons, which should be in the System Folder. The SunDesk Icons file contains resources of type CLUT, ICN#, and icl8, which is the color icon. icl8 will be used by future versions of Apple's Finder to show color icons. SunDesk Icons file is edited with ResEdit with Frederic's ResColors additions. Probably the easiest way to get all the docs and everything to ftp my site and grab what you need. host name ics.uci.edu host IP addr 128.195.1.1 login anonymous password guest path ~ftp/pub/mac Hope this helps. --scott -- Scott Truesdell
Ed.Edell@p1.f563.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Ed Edell) (02/20/90)
> icl8 will be used by future versions of Apple's Finder to show > color icons. In what manner? I mean, will authors be able to include them in their applications, and have the new Finder recognize and use them? Or, will we have to continue to have an 'external' file containing the icl8 color icons? -Ed -- Ed Edell via cmhGate - Net 226 fido<=>uucp gateway Col, OH UUCP: ...!osu-cis!n8emr!cmhgate!107!563.1!Ed.Edell INET: Ed.Edell@p1.f563.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG
truesdel@ics.uci.edu (Scott Truesdell) (02/22/90)
Ed.Edell@p1.f563.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Ed Edell) writes: >> icl8 will be used by future versions of Apple's Finder to show >> color icons. > >In what manner? I mean, will authors be able to include them in >their applications, and have the new Finder recognize and use them? >Or, will we have to continue to have an 'external' file containing >the icl8 color icons? I don't know that. In fact I couldn't even verify the original statement. The people that could, people working on new System software at Apple, are bound not to comment on future developments. My information came from a developer who has ongoing contact with such a person at Apple. I don't think it is appropriate for me to initiate a flood of email to DTS or other people at Apple (remember David Ramsey!) so, lets just say that the technique that Ed Edell proffered seems a likely route. --scott -- Scott Truesdell
Ed.Edell@p1.f563.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Ed Edell) (02/23/90)
>Ed.Edell@p1.f563.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Ed Edell) writes: > >>> icl8 will be used by future versions of Apple's Finder to show >>> color icons. >> >>In what manner? I mean, will authors be able to include them in >>their applications, and have the new Finder recognize and use them? >>Or, will we have to continue to have an 'external' file containing >>the icl8 color icons? >> >I don't know that. In fact I couldn't even verify the original statement. >The people that could, people working on new System software at Apple, >are bound not to comment on future developments. > >My information came from a developer who has ongoing contact with such >a person at Apple. I don't think it is appropriate for me to initiate >a flood of email to DTS or other people at Apple (remember David >Ramsey!) so, lets just say that the technique that Ed Edell proffered >seems a likely route. > > --scott > > >Scott Truesdell Okay, I understand... -Ed -- Ed Edell via cmhGate - Net 226 fido<=>uucp gateway Col, OH UUCP: ...!osu-cis!n8emr!cmhgate!107!563.1!Ed.Edell INET: Ed.Edell@p1.f563.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG
wilkins@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Mark Wilkins) (02/25/90)
In article <42748.25E7857D@cmhgate.FIDONET.ORG> Ed.Edell@p1.f563.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Ed Edell) writes: > >>Ed.Edell@p1.f563.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Ed Edell) writes: >> >>>> icl8 will be used by future versions of Apple's Finder to show >>>> color icons. >>> >>>In what manner? I mean, will authors be able to include them in >>>their applications, and have the new Finder recognize and use them? >>>Or, will we have to continue to have an 'external' file containing >>>the icl8 color icons? According to the System 7 Preliminary Developer Notes distributed at the 1989 World Developer Conference, WHICH WAS NOT DISTRIBUTED UNDER NONDISCLOSURE, (there, that's for Apple) icl4, icl8, ics4, ics8, and SICN resources may be included in the BNDL resource under Finder 7.0. In other words, they will work identically to ICN# icons. The only caveat is that they MUST have the same ID as a corresponding (and present) ICN# icon. -- Mark Wilkins wilkins@jarthur.claremont.edu