loucks@intvax.UUCP (Cliff Loucks) (03/14/90)
We are looking for a utility to do incremental (daily) backups. We have a Tops network including a Sun and would like to use the Sun disk to store these daily backups. (We have a cartridge drive which is sneakered around to individual machines to do full backups.) What we would like is an application which would search a disk for all files modified since a specified date, and copy those files (in Finder format) to another disk/folder (on a Tops mounted volume on the Sun in our case). All the backup utilities I have seen so far are set up to allow incremental backups only after first creating a full backup and these are usually not Finder copies. I have called around to the local suppliers, but no one knows of a utility which can do what we want. Any leads are very much appreciated. Thanks, Cliff -- A society is not civilized until it domesticates the icecube. Cliff Loucks <=> loucks@intvax.UUCP Sandia National Labs, Albuquerque, New Mexico
dvb@inmet.inmet.com (03/15/90)
Re: Backing up Macs from Sun/Tops Network... Please elaborate, if you would, on exactly what you find and need. We are inches from implementing the system you speak of, however, we assumed that what you look for was not going to be tough to find. So if you would post what you have seen and what is close and what lacks--that would be a great help to me (and others, I'm sure) Thanks. David V. Baker Intermetrics, Inc. uunet!inmet!dvb
Adam.Frix@p2.f200.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) (03/17/90)
In a message of 03/13/90, Cliff Loucks wrote - > We are looking for a utility to do incremental (daily) backups. We > have a Tops network including a Sun and would like to use the Sun disk > to store these daily backups. (We have a cartridge drive which is > sneakered around to individual machines to do full backups.) > > What we would like is an application which would search a disk for all > files modified since a specified date, and copy those files (in Finder > format) to another disk/folder (on a Tops mounted volume on the Sun in > our case). All the backup utilities I have seen so far are set up to > allow incremental backups only after first creating a full backup and > these are usually not Finder copies. By your comment about "not Finder copies," I'm going to take it that you've looked at Redux, which under normal circumstances (backing up a hard disk to floppies) backs up in its own file format. However, if everything you wish to back up will fit on one target volume, you can use Redux's Copy option. This is faster than Finder copy, and leaves the files in Finder format. And, I quote from page 6 of their current manual, "Copy can be used across a network: Use Copy if you wish to use a target disk which is mounted elsewhere on an AppleShare or TOPS network." And again, under normal circumstances with Redux you do a full backup first, then incremental backups as needed. But Redux has several very powerful controls the user can manipulate in order to back up virtually any combination of files. In addition to its scripting language, which would definitely work in your situation, Redux offers Filter controls. The Filter dialog allows the user to do several things at once: in a folder or volume, you can (check or uncheck [pick one]) (all files, all system files, all applications, all documents [pick one]) (which start with, which end with, which contain, older than, newer than, of type [pick one]) and then tell Redux to DO IT. While the scripting language offers more flexibility (the BackTalk language allows the use of a Date clause which would let the user define, for example, "all files less than 2 weeks old and more than 1 week old"), the Filter Controls are more powerful because they're more readily available to a wider range of users and are more intuitive to use. Hope this helps. --Adam-- -- Adam Frix via cmhGate - Net 226 fido<=>uucp gateway Col, OH UUCP: ...!osu-cis!n8emr!cmhgate!200.2!Adam.Frix INET: Adam.Frix@p2.f200.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG