[comp.sys.mac] System Software 6.0.5 available

mjohnson@Apple.COM (Mark B. Johnson) (03/20/90)

It has taken a long time to happen, but the disk images for System Software
6.0.5 are now available on Apple.com for anonymous FTP.  These files are in
a special sw.license directory.  You may FTP files from this directory, but
you may NOT legally redistribute these files electronically.  By downloading
these files, you are also bound to the terms and conditions in the End User
License Agreement found in the same directory.  In addition, each of the files
has this agreement prepended to its BinHex form.  You need to read and remove
these headers before decoding the file.

PLEASE WAIT UNTIL NON-PRIMETIME HOURS TO DOWNLOAD THESE FILES.  Each image is
over 800K in size, and this much traffic during peak hours must be avoided.

The BinHex files produce StuffIt files of the disk images.  When you UnStuff
these files, you will get DiskCopy documents.  DiskCopy is an application from
Apple for producing exact disk images and for creating floppy disks from these
images.  You also need to download DiskCopy for these images to be of any use
to you.  WARNING:  DiskCopy is currently incompatible with SUM II and SAM from
Symantec.  If you get errors or problems with DiskCopy, check to see if these
are the problem.

We are currently working with our Software License department to allow further
redistribution of these files and to allow us to post other licensed software.
Until that time, please don't ask why other things are not posted and do not
further redistribute these files.

To get System Software 6.0.5...

anonymous ftp to Apple.com (130.43.2.2) with password guest.
Look in ~ftp/pub/dts/sw.license
get the Read Me file and the End User License Agreement.  Once you have
read these, get DiskCopy and the disk images.  All disk images are prefixed
by 605i.  If you don't know if you want to upgrade to 6.0.5, then you may
want to read the DRAFT change history or user-level technical information
on 6.0.5 documents which are also available in this directory.

After getting the files...

Read and remove the license prepended to each file
Decode the files with BinHex then StuffIt
Run DiskCopy to produce original floppy disks
Boot your machine with the Systems Tools disk and run the Installer...

Enjoy.

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-r   855075 Mar 19 10:28 ./sw.license/605i-printing-tools.hqx
-r     2411 Mar 19 10:25 ./sw.license/605-readme.txt
-r     3413 Mar 19 10:19 ./sw.license/605-technical-information.txt
-r   872085 Mar 19 09:56 ./sw.license/605i-network-products-installer.hqx
-r     4022 Mar 19 09:54 ./README
-r     9518 Mar 19 09:27 ./sw.license/end-user-license-agreement.txt
-r    96561 Mar 19 09:27 ./sw.license/diskcopy-4-1.hqx
-r    19384 Mar 19 09:23 ./sw.license/605-draft-change-history.hqx
-r     3180 Mar 19 08:43 ./press/pr0319-memory-price-reductions.txt
-r     6102 Mar 19 08:43 ./press/pr0319-high-performance-products.txt
-r     8257 Mar 19 08:43 ./press/pr0319-high-performance-display-cards.txt
-r     7072 Mar 19 08:42 ./press/pr0319-high-performance-macintosh.txt
-r     3239 Mar 19 08:42 ./press/pr0319-customer-reseller-training.txt
-r     4742 Mar 19 08:42 ./press/pr0319-comm-college-alliance.txt
-r     2382 Mar 19 08:42 ./press/pr0319-aux20-update-program.txt
-r     6129 Mar 19 08:42 ./press/pr0319-aux20-announced.txt
-r     1604 Mar 16 08:06 ./press/pr0315-higher-qtr2-earnings.txt
-r    20068 Mar 15 12:23 ./mac/docs/sadmac-errorcodes.hqx
-r   418347 Mar 15 12:14 ./mac/stacks/serialport-toolkit-2-6.hqx
-r     4204 Mar 15 11:58 ./press/pr0315-appleii-high-speed-scsi.txt
-r      750 Mar 15 08:31 ./help/ftp-status
-r      686 Mar 12 09:41 ./press/pr0309-repurchase-shares.txt
-r     2618 Mar  8 12:54 ./press/pr0308-one-year-warranty.txt
-r   177649 Mar  7 18:04 ./mac/sys.soft/truetype-info-stack.hqx
-r     4257 Mar  7 11:55 ./mac/sc/sc-formpw31users.txt
-r    29111 Mar  7 10:44 ./mac/defprocs/wprocasm.hqx
-r    20479 Mar  7 10:43 ./mac/defprocs/sbarcdef.hqx
-r      770 Mar  7 10:42 ./mac/defprocs/readme-defprocs.txt
-r    18529 Mar  7 10:42 ./mac/defprocs/rdocproc.hqx
-r    60771 Mar  7 10:42 ./mac/defprocs/mdefproc.hqx
-r     5466 Mar  7 10:40 ./mac/defprocs/ldefproc0.hqx
-r    18612 Mar  7 10:39 ./mac/defprocs/butcdef.hqx
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Mark B. Johnson                                            AppleLink: mjohnson
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pnm@goanna.oz.au (Paul Big-Ears Menon) (03/20/90)

In article <39647@apple.Apple.COM>, mjohnson@Apple.COM (Mark B. Johnson) writes:

>It has taken a long time to happen, but the disk images for System Software
>6.0.5 are now available on Apple.com for anonymous FTP.  These files are in
>a special sw.license directory.  You may FTP files from this directory, but

  ThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyou
  ThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyou

>PLEASE WAIT UNTIL NON-PRIMETIME HOURS TO DOWNLOAD THESE FILES.  Each image is
>over 800K in size, and this much traffic during peak hours must be avoided.
	
    A question.  With international accesses, it becomes dificult to gauge
the TimeZone for a site.  Is there a TIME command in ftp?  Is it possible
for popular sites to include their local time in their sign on message?  It
would prevent bad feelings from all points of view.

Thankyou,
    
    Paul Menon,
    Dept of Computer Science,
    Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, 
    124 Latrobe Street,
    Melbourne 3001, 
    Victoria, Australia.

pnm@goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU
PH:	+61 3 660 3209

dan@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Dan Schwarz) (03/20/90)

In article <2991@goanna.oz.au> pnm@goanna.oz.au (Paul Big-Ears Menon) writes:
>In article <39647@apple.Apple.COM>, mjohnson@Apple.COM (Mark B. Johnson) writes:
>
>>It has taken a long time to happen, but the disk images for System Software
>>6.0.5 are now available on Apple.com for anonymous FTP.  These files are in
>>a special sw.license directory.  You may FTP files from this directory, but
>
>  ThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyou
>  ThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyou
>
>    Paul Menon,

Let me also say "thank you!" for making System 6.0.5 available through FTP
(lets hope 7.0 follows shortly :-)  ... Let me be the first to start with some
questions:

I have a Mac SE which was previously running the combination System 6.0.1 /
Finder 6.1b7 - this worked very well, but I thought it might be time to see
what new fixes and such Apple had in store with this revision.  One ANNOYING
thing I see is that the resident-program-list has been moved back to the
bottom of the DA list. I find this to be much less convenient than the
placement in 6.1b7.  Why the change?
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mjohnson@Apple.COM (Mark B. Johnson) (03/20/90)

In article <1990Mar20.044715.17957@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> dan@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Dan Schwarz) writes:
>
>Let me also say "thank you!" for making System 6.0.5 available through FTP
>(lets hope 7.0 follows shortly :-)  ... Let me be the first to start with some
>questions:
>
>I have a Mac SE which was previously running the combination System 6.0.1 /
>Finder 6.1b7 - this worked very well, but I thought it might be time to see
>what new fixes and such Apple had in store with this revision.  One ANNOYING
>thing I see is that the resident-program-list has been moved back to the
>bottom of the DA list. I find this to be much less convenient than the
>placement in 6.1b7.  Why the change?
>-- 

No change.  MultiFinder 6.1bx (SADE MultiFinder) is currently an unsupported
product from Apple and only ships with SADE and MPW.  If you choose to use
it, you can reinstall it and the DA Handler from your original SADE/MPW
package and everything will be back to the way it was before, but with the
benefits of 6.0.5 fixes. In addition, the current version of 6.1bx is b9.

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                                                         - Richard Bach, _One_

newbery@rata.vuw.ac.nz (Michael Newbery) (03/21/90)

Might I make a plea to shorten the file names on the Apple file server so
they conform to Macintosh file name length limitations? At least the 6.0.5
software! Tsk tsk. And while I'm on my soap box, how about
(a) using a restartable ftp
(b) providing macbinary as well as hqx files for those of us with binary
    ftp and slow Internet connections.

--
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"There were no survivors, sir. I'm afraid we'll have to find another test market"

rterry@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Ray Terry) (03/21/90)

Has anybody gotten Diskcopy to work?  I've ftp_ed it twice now and w/o any 
INITs, Mac II, System 6.0.4, MF 6.1b9, it either always hangs the Mac or 
bombs it (ID=10, I think it was).  I tried running it both from the startup
hard disk and a floppy.  It did a little better when run from a floppy, but
would bomb when I tried to load the image...

Did I miss something?  Any help would be appreciated.

Ray
rterry%hpda@hplabs.hp.com

yost@esquire.UUCP (David A. Yost) (03/22/90)

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In article <39647@apple.Apple.COM> mjohnson@Apple.COM (Mark B. Johnson) writes:
>WARNING:  DiskCopy is currently incompatible with SUM II and SAM from
>Symantec.

Please give more details.  I used it today on my IIci to copy floppies
of 6.0.5 and now I'm wondering.  Does it quietly write bad floppies,
does it crash sometimes, what's the nature of the incompatibility,
and on what machines running what systems?

Thanks.

 --dave yost
   yost@dpw.com or uunet!esquire!yost
   Please ignore the From or Reply-To fields above, if different.

rterry@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Ray Terry) (03/22/90)

Does Diskcopy work with Desktop mgr???  Perhaps that is why it didn't 
work for me.  (It is at home and I'm at work right now.)

If anyone using Desktop Mgr got it to work, please let me know.

Thanks.

Ray

allbery@NCoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery) (03/22/90)

+---------------
| In article <1990Mar20.044715.17957@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> dan@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Dan Schwarz) writes:
| >Let me also say "thank you!" for making System 6.0.5 available through FTP
| >(lets hope 7.0 follows shortly :-)  ... Let me be the first to start with some
+---------------

Will it be possible to get HyperCard 1.2.5 this way at some point?  I'm still
running 6.0.2 because I use HyperCard but don't have the time to find a
reputable local dealer to get 1.2.5 from.  (I no longer have any respect for
my previous dealer....)

++Brandon
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BrandonA (A-Online) ("...and a partridge in a pear tree!" ;-)

rterry@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Ray Terry) (03/22/90)

Sorry for all the msgs here...

I've heard from several folks that tell me it worked fine for them, but also
several others that are also having trouble.  After reinstalling system 6.0.4
on my system (just in case), after directly launching Diskcopy it tells me that
the Finder is damaged or busy...  Tells me the same thing when I boot from the
6.0.4 disk from Apple.

So I guess I'll just wait until my 6.0.5 disks arrive in the mail.

Thanks to all those that replied.

Ray

kovar@popvax.uucp (David C. Kovar) (03/23/90)

In article <-286499951@hpcupt1.HP.COM> rterry@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Ray Terry) writes:
>Has anybody gotten Diskcopy to work?  I've ftp_ed it twice now and w/o any 
>INITs, Mac II, System 6.0.4, MF 6.1b9, it either always hangs the Mac or 
>bombs it (ID=10, I think it was).  I tried running it both from the startup
>hard disk and a floppy.  It did a little better when run from a floppy, but
>would bomb when I tried to load the image...

  DiskCopy does seem to be a tad sensitive to things. I tried running it
on my Portable and kept getting an Error -39. I eventually copied the
image onto a floppy disk and read the image into DiskCopy from there.
Everything worked fine. It's a very slick program, when it works. I also
shut off all my INITs, just to be sure. Never bombed. By the by, this
is a Portable with 2MB of memory, 40MB disk.

-David

-David C. Kovar
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teener@apple.com (Michael Teener) (03/23/90)

In article <-286499948@hpcupt1.HP.COM> rterry@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Ray Terry) 
writes:
> Does Diskcopy work with Desktop mgr???  Perhaps that is why it didn't 
> work for me.  (It is at home and I'm at work right now.)

Works like a charm for me, and I use almost all INITs in existence ... 
including Desktop Manager.

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rterry@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Ray Terry) (03/23/90)

The utility DiskCopy (Apple 3.5" Disk Duplicator, v4.1) that is used to 
convert the System 6.0.5 disk images available via anonymous ftp from apple.com
has a very definite bug/incompatibility.  

DiskCopy cannot be launched from a hard disk that has been partitioned with
Silverlining (v5.17 in my case).  When DiskCopy is launched from a Silverling
partitioned disk it bombs (ID=10, hangs, and/or tells you that the Finder is
damaged or missing).

Workaround = move DiskCopy to a non-Silverling partitioned disk and launch from
there.  All works fine then.

Thanks to the others also having problems w/DiskCopy that helped me to 
finally isolate this bug.

Ray

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kellogg@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Lars Kellogg-Stedman) (03/23/90)

In article 54829, rterry@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Ray Terry) said, in part...
>Does Diskcopy work with Desktop mgr???  Perhaps that is why it didn't 
>work for me.  (It is at home and I'm at work right now.)
>
>If anyone using Desktop Mgr got it to work, please let me know.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Ray

I'm using Desktop Manager.

Diskcopy works fine, as long as I boot it off of a floppy.

Lars
kellogg@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu

minow@mountn.dec.com (Martin Minow) (03/23/90)

After I installed 6.0.5 on top of an existing 6.0.4 system file, the
Mac crashed solid (ID=12) immediately after booting.  I worked around
this by moving the new (crashing) System file to another directory
and installing 6.0.5 on a "fresh" system.  This seems to work ok.

Oh, yes, when I tried copying the huge collection of screen fonts
(souvenier of MacInTax), Font/DA mover died with error 4,-1.  Copying
fonts one-by-one worked.

This is by way of warning: don't forget to backup your system before
upgrading.

Martin Minow
minow@thundr.enet.dec.com

tempest@walleye.uucp (Ken) (03/26/90)

In article <-286499945@hpcupt1.HP.COM> rterry@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Ray Terry) writes:
[...]
>DiskCopy cannot be launched from a hard disk that has been partitioned with
>Silverlining (v5.17 in my case).  When DiskCopy is launched from a Silverling
[...]
However, DiskCopy will work with SilverLining v5.2.  Call LaCie
and ask for an upgrade.

Ken

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