[comp.sys.mac] About Usenet Macintosh Groups

geoff@pmafire.UUCP (Geoff Allen) (03/24/90)

This is a regular posting providing information about Usenet Macintosh
groups.  It is designed to help you find the best place to post your
Macintosh questions/discussions.  A companion posting answers some of
the more commonly asked questions.  [Note that the Q and A posting does
not yet exist; that's my next project.]

Feel free to send comments, questions, etc. about this posting to
uunet!pmafire!geoff.


Usenet Macintosh groups
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There are several newsgroups for discussions related to the Macintosh. 
Here are group names, along with their `official' definitions taken from
the monthly `List of Active Newsgroups' posted in news.announce.newusers,
news.lists, and news.groups.  Each of these is followed by a more
detailed explanation of the newsgroup. 

[Note:  there is currently a vote underway (watch
 news.announce.newgroups for announcements) which would reorganize much
 of the comp.sys.mac.* hierarchy.  The descriptions below reflect the
 current hierarchy.  They will be updated when the result of the vote is
 known.]

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comp.sys.mac		Discussions about the Apple Macintosh & Lisa.

This is the main Macintosh newsgroup.  This is where general Macintosh
discussions (i.e., those without a specific group) should go.  Volume is
very high in this group, so please try to do your part by not posting
here if a more specific group exists. 

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comp.sys.mac.hardware	Macintosh hardware issues & discussions.

This newsgroup is for discussing Macintosh hardware.  If you have a
question about your ImageWriter or want to know about upgrading the
memory in your Mac, this is the place. 

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comp.sys.mac.hypercard	The Macintosh Hypercard: info & uses.

This one is pretty self-explanatory.  If you have a question or comment
about HyperCard, it belongs here.  By extension, discussions about
SuperCard and Plus (two HyperCard-like programs from other vendors) also
belong here. 

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comp.sys.mac.programmer	Discussion by people programming the Apple Macintosh.

This group is for those involved in Macintosh programming.  (Note, if
your Macintosh programming is in HyperTalk, then it belongs in
comp.sys.mac.hypercard.)  Questions and discussions about writing XCMDs
and XCFNs for HyperCard should go ...

[here or c.s.m.hypercard?  What so folks think?  I can see a case for
 each.]

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comp.sys.mac.digest	Apple Macintosh: info&uses, but no programs. (Moderated)

This newsgroup (which is actually a gatewayed mailing list) presents a
digest of postings covering all Macintosh topics.  It is also the source
of information for files available for FTP from sumex-aim.stanford.edu. 
(See the Q & A posting for information on FTP and alternatives for those
not on the Internet.)

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comp.binaries.mac	Encoded Macintosh programs in binary. (Moderated)

Macintosh programs in BinHex form appear here.  For more information
about this newsgroup, see the companion Q & A posting. 

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comp.sources.mac	Software for the Apple Macintosh. (Moderated)

[Is this group really active?  Our feed for this is from uunet, and I've
 never seen anything in it.  If uunet doesn't get it, I wonder who does.]

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comp.protocols.appletalk	Applebus hardware & software.

Questions and discussions relating to AppleTalk (LocalTalk) and
Macintosh networking belong here.

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comp.unix.aux		The version of UNIX for Apple Macintosh II computers.

If you want to talk about A/UX, this is the place to do it.

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comp.sys.apple		Discussion about Apple micros.

Note: This group is *not* for discussing the Macintosh.  Please don't
post your Macintosh discussions here.  Comp.sys.apple is for Apple ][
and Apple /// computers.  To clear up this misunderstanding,
comp.sys.apple2 was recently created.  Comp.sys.apple will soon be
disappearing.


A Word About Crossposting
-------------------------

You should have little need to crosspost within the Macintosh
newsgroups.  They are intended to provide dedicated areas for your
discussions, and there should be little, if any, crossover between
areas. 

The most commonly seen crossposting is to post to one of the more
specific groups and crosspost to comp.sys.mac.  For example:

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.sys.mac

This is unnecessary, and even somewhat rude.  If you have a programming
question, it should be posted to comp.sys.mac.programmer.  There are
folks reading comp.sys.mac who don't really care about programming the
Macintosh, and they shouldn't have to wade through programming
discussions.  That's why comp.sys.mac.programmer exists.

This, of course, applies to the other groups as well.


Other Groups of Interest
------------------------

There are other groups that, while not Macintosh-specific, may be the
place to post your questions/discussions.  For example:

comp.fonts		Typefonts -- design, conversion, use, etc.
comp.text		Text processing issues and methods.
comp.text.desktop	Technology & techniques of desktop publishing.

These groups would be a better place for desktop publishing discussions,
since they exist for just such a purpose.  

comp.lang.c		Discussion about C.
comp.lang.pascal	Discussion about Pascal.
comp.lang.fortran	Discussion about FORTRAN.
etc.

If you have questions or discussions about the language you're
programming in rather than a Macintosh-specific programming question,
the appropriate comp.lang.* group would be a better place to post.


In short, check the list of active newsgroups (posted monthly to
news.announce.newusers, news.lists, and news.groups) for newsgroups that
might be of interest.  Some examples you might wish to explore include:

comp.graphics		Computer graphics, art, animation, image processing.
comp.graphics.digest	Graphics software, hardware, theory, etc. (Moderated)
comp.ivideodisc		Interactive videodiscs -- uses, potential, etc.
comp.lang.postscript	The PostScript Page Description Language.
comp.laser-printers	Laser printers, hardware & software. (Moderated)
comp.object		Object-oriented programming and languages.

comp.os.mach		The MACH OS from CMU & other places.
comp.os.minix		Discussion of Tanenbaum's MINIX system.
[These two represent UNIX-like systems available for the Macintosh.]

comp.unix		Discussion of UNIX* features and bugs. (Moderated)
comp.unix.questions	UNIX neophytes group.
comp.unix.wizards	Discussions, bug reports, and fixes on and for UNIX.
comp.windows.misc	Various issues about windowing systems.
comp.windows.x		Discussion about the X Window System.
comp.virus		Computer viruses & security. (Moderated)

-- 
Geoff Allen
uunet!pmafire!geoff
bigtex!pmafire!geoff

ccc_ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University) (03/26/90)

Regarding the activity on comp.sources.mac, a few weeks ago I posted
MenuStuff.sit.hqx, a collection of menu-manipulation tools for use
with the MPW Shell. Did anybody else see them? (In particular, the
people who asked me for them).

The file was about 90K in size. If it got chopped or lost, let
me know, and I'll repost, in two (or more?) sections this time.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Computer Services Dept, University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand.
Whatever happened to Tania Harris?