wwtaroli@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Bill Taroli) (03/28/90)
Curiosity got the best of me and I started reading some of the "talk" going on about the Mac on the Amiga side of things. I probably haven't laughed so hard since Dan Quayle became vice president. I will say one thing, however. If the manner in which Amiga users "discuss" topics has anything to say about the mentality of those who use them, then the professional attitude that comes forth from the Mac world extends beyond just the hardware and software. Bill Taroli WWTAROLI@RODAN.acs.syr.edu
jwwalden@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Darc Tangent) (03/29/90)
In article <2665@rodan.acs.syr.edu>, wwtaroli@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Bill Taroli) writes: > Curiosity got the best of me and I started reading some of the "talk" going > on about the Mac on the Amiga side of things. I probably haven't laughed > so hard since Dan Quayle became vice president. > -- Yes, Amiga users are almost as misinformed about Macintoshes, as Mac users are misinformed about Amigas. "Objective truth is a social disease." - Nietzsche James Walden
gilgalad@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) (03/29/90)
In article <2665@rodan.acs.syr.edu> wwtaroli@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Bill Taroli) writes: >Curiosity got the best of me and I started reading some of the "talk" going >on about the Mac on the Amiga side of things. I probably haven't laughed >so hard since Dan Quayle became vice president. > Dan Quayle becoming v.p. is not something to laugh about, it's something to be mourned. >I will say one thing, however. If the manner in which Amiga users "discuss" >topics has anything to say about the mentality of those who use them, then >the professional attitude that comes forth from the Mac world extends beyond >just the hardware and software. > We aren't overgeneralizing here are we? 8-) Granted there are some idiots that are posting a lot of nonsense there, but please do not read more into it. >Bill Taroli >WWTAROLI@RODAN.acs.syr.edu gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu gilgalad@dip.eecs.umich.edu gilgalad@goliath.eecs.umich.edu Ralph_Seguin@ub.cc.umich.edu gilgalad@sparky.eecs.umich.edu USER6TUN@UMICHUB.BITNET Ralph Seguin | In order to get infinitely many monkeys to type 11010 Lighthouse Dr. #234 | something that actually makes sense, you need to Belleville, MI 48111 | have infinitely many monkey editors as well. (313) 697-1048
lsr@Apple.COM (Larry Rosenstein) (03/29/90)
In article <1186.2610b9c7@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> jwwalden@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Darc Tangent) writes: > Yes, Amiga users are almost as misinformed about Macintoshes, as Mac users > are misinformed about Amigas. But you don't see any misinformation about the Amiga posted in comp.sys.mac. The problem for me is that they are misinformed, but that they spread their misinformation around. In reality this works against the Amiga because they certainly could learn something from the Mac. Larry Rosenstein, Apple Computer, Inc. Object Specialist Internet: lsr@Apple.com UUCP: {nsc, sun}!apple!lsr AppleLink: Rosenstein1
addison@pollux.usc.edu (Richard Addison) (03/29/90)
In article <7441@goofy.Apple.COM> lsr@Apple.COM (Larry Rosenstein) writes: |In article <1186.2610b9c7@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> |jwwalden@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Darc Tangent) writes: || Yes, Amiga users are almost as misinformed about Macintoshes, as Mac ||users are misinformed about Amigas. | |But you don't see any misinformation about the Amiga posted in comp.sys.mac. | |The problem for me is that they are misinformed, but that they spread their |misinformation around. In reality this works against the Amiga because |they certainly could learn something from the Mac. | |Larry Rosenstein, Apple Computer, Inc. |Object Specialist | |Internet: lsr@Apple.com UUCP: {nsc, sun}!apple!lsr |AppleLink: Rosenstein1 Larry Rosenstein: Please desist spreading misinformation (and disinformation).
rkm@PacBell.COM (Richard Mossman) (03/30/90)
I agree with Larry that the Amiga and its users could learn something from
the Mac, unfortunately, when it comes to my latest passion (video) I think
the Mac could learn a lot more from the Amiga: like, price (of both the
start up system and Amiga or third party peripherals and add ons), ease of
use (believe it or not, it is easy to set up and operate a sophisticated
editing studio with the Amiga) and availability of people and publications
that have years of experience in the field (whereas, Scully and Apple are
leading us to think they have recently stumbled on this new field and are
happy to bring it to us). Pick up a copy of AmigaWorld sometime that it
carries one of its many articles on Desktop Video, Video Production, or
Animation and get ready for a shock. I, personally, get kind of embarrassed
when I look at the articles and the adds for software/hardware versus those
for the Mac.
I love working with the Mac, all of them. I have, or have access to, every
version of the Mac there has ever been. It is the greatest Productivity
Machine a manager could ever have, I just wish it did as much for as little
cost as the Amiga (for video editing and production).
I intend to have two machines in my office at home: the Mac for DTP, scripting,
general graphics, telecomm., etc. and an Amiga 2500 for video work.
Now, for a small flame. I don't mind discussing the merits of Macs vs. Amigas,
but comments about the people who read/write to various sigs can go in
/dev/null. Obviously, I read and respond to both (and other) topic areas.
--
Richard K. Mossman {bellcore,sun,ames,pyramid}!pacbell!rkm
Work: 415/823-0974 Home: 415/754-6032
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The worst day skiing ... is always made better by discount lift tickets.dlw@hpccc.HP.COM (David Williams) (03/30/90)
In article <2665@rodan.acs.syr.edu>, wwtaroli@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Bill Taroli) wr ites: > Curiosity got the best of me and I started reading some of the "talk" going > on about the Mac on the Amiga side of things. I probably haven't laughed > so hard since Dan Quayle became vice president. > Yup, I looked over there as well...tons o' smug amiga users who exhort Mac users to "Turn off MultiFinder" when their machines crash. Yeesh. The Amiga seems like such a nice machine, unfortunately its sold by a company that can't market it to save their lives. Why they seem to enjoy trashing Macs so much, when MS_DOS, Windows & OS/2 offer such rich endless possibilities for ridicule is beyond me. ...David ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- David L. Williams -- hplabs!dlw -- dlw@iag.hp.com -- 408 447-5425 Hewlett Packard -- Information Architecture Group Distributed Application Architecture 19046 Pruneridge Ave MS: 46G Cupertino CA *
jwwalden@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Darc Tangent) (03/30/90)
In article <7441@goofy.Apple.COM>, lsr@Apple.COM (Larry Rosenstein) writes: > References:<2665@rodan.acs.syr.edu> <1186.2610b9c7@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> > > In article <1186.2610b9c7@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> > jwwalden@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Darc Tangent) writes: >> Yes, Amiga users are almost as misinformed about Macintoshes, as Mac > users >> are misinformed about Amigas. > > But you don't see any misinformation about the Amiga posted in comp.sys.mac. Well, I haven't seen any, but I don't read comp.sys.mac that often and don't really read comp.sys.amiga that much more (actually all the recent responses came from someone posting a blatant Mac is better than Amiga message), but I have seen many Mac users post obviously incorrect things about the Amiga on BBS's (the common Amiga as a game computer concept), and I have also seen Amiga users post misinformation about Macs. Both sides are equally guilty. > > The problem for me is that they are misinformed, but that they spread their > misinformation around. In reality this works against the Amiga because > they certainly could learn something from the Mac. > Yes, both the Amiga and the Macintosh need to learn things from each other, although it looks like the Macintosh learned quite a few of them with the IIfx. > Larry Rosenstein, Apple Computer, Inc. > Object Specialist > > Internet: lsr@Apple.com UUCP: {nsc, sun}!apple!lsr > AppleLink: Rosenstein1 -- [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] [] [] [] Darc Tangent d(arctan(u)) = du/(1+u^2) jwwalden@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu [] [] [] [] "I am made from the dust of the stars, the oceans flow in my veins." [] [] - RUSH, Presto [] [] [] [] "Reading legal mush can turn your brain to guacamole!" - Amiga RKM [] [] "Objective truth is a social disease." - Nietzsche [] [] [] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]