lbaum@bcsaic.UUCP (Larry Baum) (03/08/89)
I downloaded Virus Detective 2.1.1 yesterday and had the following unpleasant experience: I have a Mac Plus, 2.5 Meg memory, Hyperdrive HD, external 800K floppy drive. INITS and CDEVs: SUM INITs, Suitcase, SFVolInit, Moire, Application Menu, Backdrop I decided to remove VD from my system and use Suitcase to handle it instead. So I first removed VD (under Multifinder). I copied VD to the hard disk and opened it under Suitcase. After checking a few files on the hard disk, I attempted to check a floppy and clicked on the "Drive" button of the VD Dialog box. The system immediately froze (there was a disk in the external floppy); i.e. the mouse did not move, etc. I rebooted. Suitcase did not load. I installed VD into my System file and tried it again. This time I clicked on "Drive" and waited to insert a floppy in the internal floppy drive until the open dialog box appeared. As soon as I inserted the floppy the system froze again. I rebooted Still no Suitcase. Now I inserted a floppy while at the desltop and the system froze. I rebooted using a virgin System 6.0.2 startup disk and reinstalled the system into my hard disk and rebooted. Suitcase still did not come up. But the freezing problem was gone. I reinstalled Suitcase and reopened the DAs and Fonts I wanted. At this point my floppy drives were working normally. I decided to test it one more time, so I used VD again and clicked on "Drive". Bingo! It froze again. [If you study the above sequence, you will see that VD was NOT being handled by Suitcase this time, i.e. it was still in my system] I rebooted the virgin 6.0.2 system and reinstalled and things are back to normal, as far as I can tell. Of course, the system may freeze again, but I was not having any such problems when I finished last night. Until this behavior repeats itself, I will not use VD. This is too bad, since I consider it quite useful. Has anyone else had similar problems? Comments? -- Larry Baum Advanced Technology Center Boeing Computer Services uucp: uw-beaver!uw-june!bcsaic!lbaum (206) 865-3232 internet: lbaum@atc.boeing.com
gahooten@ames.arc.nasa.gov (03/09/89)
In article <10603@bcsaic.UUCP> lbaum@bcsaic.UUCP (Larry Baum) writes: >I decided to remove VD from my system and use Suitcase to handle it instead. So I >first removed VD (under Multifinder). I would be interested to know if this problem reoccurs not under Multifinder. If it does not, then this is a possible way around the problem if VD is critical to your usage. I don't know if this will help. You may set up a boot disk, and run VD off the boot disk not under multifinder if the problem is specific to MF. Just a thought. Greg Hooten.
cramer@athens.iex.com (Bill Cramer) (03/10/89)
In article <10603@bcsaic.UUCP> lbaum@bcsaic.UUCP (Larry Baum) writes: >I downloaded Virus Detective 2.1.1 yesterday and had the following >unpleasant experience: > >I have a Mac Plus, 2.5 Meg memory, Hyperdrive HD, external 800K floppy >drive. > >INITS and CDEVs: SUM INITs, Suitcase, SFVolInit, Moire, Application Menu, >Backdrop > >I decided to remove VD from my system and use Suitcase to handle it instead. So I >first removed VD (under Multifinder). > [ followed by a list of the subsequent problems...] I assume Virus Detective is a DA? The Multifinder section in the OS manual, as well as the Font/DA Mover section in the utilities manual both *suggest* that you avoid using Font/DA Mover while Multifinder is active. I managed to mung up my System file by installing a DA with Multifinder active (I read the manual and tried it anyway!) Just for grins (after saving off your current System), try installing and uninstalling the DA under Finder instead of Multifinder. May work. May not :-) Bill Cramer IEX Corporation {uunet,convex,killer}!iex!cramer
sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) (03/12/89)
In article <10603@bcsaic.UUCP> lbaum@bcsaic.UUCP (Larry Baum) writes: >I downloaded Virus Detective 2.1.1 yesterday and had the following >unpleasant experience: > >I decided to remove VD from my system and use Suitcase to handle it >instead. So I first removed VD (under Multifinder). Never remove any DA from the System under Multifinder. It seems very easy to trash the System file this way, and this sounds like what happened to you. It's always safest to reboot under UniFinder first. I run Virus Detective from a Suitcase file with no problems, so it *is* compatible with Suitcase. Here's a paragraph from the well-written manual on Suitcase explaining how to move DAs out of the System file and into a Suitcase file: If Multifinder is on, choose Set Startup from the destop's Special menu, press the "Finder" radio button, click OK, and restart the Macintosh. Open Font/DA Mover and click the Desk Accessory radio button. [ then copy the files out, click Remove and quit. ] [ p. 23] Hope this helps. -- Steve Baumgarten | "New York... when civilization falls apart, Davis Polk & Wardwell | remember, we were way ahead of you." cmcl2!esquire!sbb | esquire!sbb@cmcl2.nyu.edu | - David Letterman
lbaum@bcsaic.UUCP (Larry Baum) (03/14/89)
In article <1067@esquire.UUCP} sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) writes: }In article <10603@bcsaic.UUCP> lbaum@bcsaic.UUCP (Larry Baum) writes: }>I downloaded Virus Detective 2.1.1 yesterday and had the following }>unpleasant experience: }> }>I decided to remove VD from my system and use Suitcase to handle it }>instead. So I first removed VD (under Multifinder). } }Never remove any DA from the System under Multifinder. It seems very }easy to trash the System file this way, and this sounds like what }happened to you. } }It's always safest to reboot under UniFinder first. I run Virus }Detective from a Suitcase file with no problems, so it *is* compatible }with Suitcase. } }Here's a paragraph from the well-written manual on Suitcase explaining }how to move DAs out of the System file and into a Suitcase file: } } If Multifinder is on, choose Set Startup from the destop's Special } menu, press the "Finder" radio button, click OK, and restart the } Macintosh. Open Font/DA Mover and click the Desk Accessory radio } button. [ then copy the files out, click Remove and quit. ] [ p. 23] I know how to startup under the finder. I prefer to just hold down the command key, so that I don't have to reset the startup default. The warning that appears when you remove a DA under Multifinder does NOT suggest anything drastic. Anyway, that does not explain why the problem recurred after I re-installed the System. I never said that it is incompatible with Suitcase. I said that after things got fouled up, Suitcase would not load. -- Larry Baum Advanced Technology Center Boeing Computer Services uucp: uw-beaver!uw-june!bcsaic!lbaum (206) 865-3232 internet: lbaum@atc.boeing.com
sgordon@hpindwa.HP.COM (Shaun Gordon) (04/09/90)
Could someone please mail me a parts 2 and 3 of VirusDetective DA 4.0. They did not make it through to my machine. BTW, I can't ftp to an archive site, otherwise I would get them that way. Thanks in advance, -Shaun Gordon -sgordon@hpindwa.hp.com -hplabs!hpda!hpindwa!sgordon