wahl-e@rhumba.eng.ohio-state.edu (Edward A Wahl) (04/09/90)
I understand that current systems have been available at apple.com, but will future systems? System 7.0 in particular? I purchased a MacIIx and have always been happy with system 6.0.2(even though I'll be paying for it for a few more years). But what will happen from now on with the event of virtual memory? I would like to see the updates on FTP at apple.com, I know that not all of us are even employed (HUH college-students?) But this is a very valid question when you are flat broke and don't want to be technically obsolete. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- wahl-e@cis.ohio-state.edu | CIS/ENG Ohio-State "only a mediocre man is always at his best." --------------------------------------------------------------------------
gbrown@tybalt.caltech.edu (Glenn C. Brown) (04/09/90)
wahl-e@rhumba.eng.ohio-state.edu (Edward A Wahl) writes: > I understand that current systems have been available at apple.com, but will > future systems? System 7.0 in particular? I purchased a MacIIx and have > always been happy with system 6.0.2(even though I'll be paying for it for a > few more years). But what will happen from now on > with the event of virtual memory? I would like to see the updates on FTP > at apple.com, I know that not all of us are even employed > (HUH college-students?) But this is a very valid question when you are flat > broke and don't want to be technically obsolete. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > wahl-e@cis.ohio-state.edu | CIS/ENG Ohio-State > "only a mediocre man is always at his best." > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I beleive that Apple has said that system 7.0 will be released in 2 ways: If you want the manuals, you pay for a boxed copy of the system. Otherwise, you go to the closest Apple dealer w/ a copy of your original system disc (with the Apple label) and several blank discs, and the dealer is supposed to let you copy the system discs FOR FREE. (I'm sure someone from Apple will correct me if I'm wrong.) I don't know if system 7.0 should be released over the net. More than a couple of million people will want copies (unlike the (relatively) few who needed system 6.05) and I doubt that the net could handle the load gracefully. I think going to your dealer for a free copy should be EASIER than ftping for the files, and then converting them. At least easier for 99% of users... -Glenn
jeff@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jeff White) (04/09/90)
In article <1990Apr9.012338.24649@laguna.ccsf.caltech.edu> gbrown@tybalt.caltech.edu (Glenn C. Brown) writes: > I beleive that Apple has said that system 7.0 will be released in 2 ways: >If you want the manuals, you pay for a boxed copy of the system. Otherwise, >you go to the closest Apple dealer w/ a copy of your original system disc >(with the Apple label) and several blank discs, and the dealer is supposed >to let you copy the system discs FOR FREE. (I'm sure someone from Apple >will correct me if I'm wrong.) > I don't know if system 7.0 should be released over the net. More than a >couple of million people will want copies (unlike the (relatively) few >who needed system 6.05) and I doubt that the net could handle the load >gracefully. Larger sites might want to try to obtain a copy, and advise as many users as possible to obtain it from there (ie. DEC users should ftp their copy from a local DEC machine, and not have 100 people making individual ftp's to apple.). I'm curious to see how many (if any) updates for 7.0 end up being released. I believe 'System 6.0' needed versions 6.0.1 and 6.0.2 to actually become stable, and versions .3, .4, and .5 for support for newer machines. You'll definitely have a lot of net traffic if users have to do ftp's of the set 2 or 3 times before they eventually get a stable version. Jeff White jeff@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
drc@claris.com (Dennis Cohen) (04/09/90)
jeff@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jeff White) writes: > Larger sites might want to try to obtain a copy, and advise as many users >as possible to obtain it from there (ie. DEC users should ftp their copy >from a local DEC machine, and not have 100 people making individual ftp's >to apple.). I'm curious to see how many (if any) updates for 7.0 end up >being released. I believe 'System 6.0' needed versions 6.0.1 and 6.0.2 to >actually become stable, and versions .3, .4, and .5 for support for newer >machines. You'll definitely have a lot of net traffic if users have to >do ftp's of the set 2 or 3 times before they eventually get a stable version. One of the larger differences between the 6.0.x versions and 7.0 is that Apple says that they plan to seed every developer with 7.0. This was not the case at any time in the past. Giving a few thousand developers a few months to test it will (hopefully) insure a much more stable release than was the case when a few dozen (or hundred) got a couple of weeks to test something. -- Dennis Cohen Claris Corp. **************************************************** Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed above are _MINE_!
bannon@andromeda.rutgers.edu.rutgers.edu (Ron Bannon) (04/11/90)
Glenn C. Brown writes: > I don't know if system 7.0 should be released over the net. More than a >couple of million people will want copies (unlike the (relatively) few >who needed system 6.05) and I doubt that the net could handle the load >gracefully. Wow! I always thought that there were at most several thousand Mac users on the net and of those only a small percent have the ability to access ftp sites. Am I wrong? Ron Bannon bannon@andromeda.rutgers.edu bannon@math.rutgers.edu