[comp.sys.mac] Grayscale/UltraPaint

kehr@felix.UUCP (Shirley Kehr) (06/28/90)

Last night I was reading all the articles about how good the Zoom modem
is, when mine started spewing out all kinds of garbage. I live in an
area that probably has noisy phone lines and it was still a bit warm in
the house. Both of those conditions are intolerable to the Zoom modem.

But all of that is beside the point. I was in the middle of replying to
Boyd's article in which he complained about a grayscale image in 
UltraPaint taking at least an hour to print.

It's UltraPaint, not the grayscale image. Put that image in Word, PageMaker,
Digital Darkroom and probably others I haven't tried and you'll find that
it doesn't take all that long to print it. (You'll need LaserWriter 6.0 to
print it from Word.)  The maximum time should be about two minutes.

In UltraPaint, you don't need a grayscale image to take that kind of time.
I just made a tree (like they suggest in their tutorial), decorated it with
their "grass" setting and the leaves tool. It took 45 minutes in both
UltraPaint and Word. I don't know what they're doing, and I'm surprised that
I've read absolutely nothing about UltraPaint in the trade press since its
introduction (maybe one review that didn't discuss the printing problem).

Like Canvas, they seem to have good ideas and build a feature-rich program.
Canvas is easier to use that just about any drawing program, but if you
just draw a simple box and put it in Word, two of the sides won't print.
How can they give us so much in neat features and ease of use tools, then
fail so miserably on simple things like printing and documentation. (If
you're an original Canvas owner, you know what I mean about the set of
update manuals. We have nothing but a mish-mash of pieces of documentation.)

OK Flame Off of Deneba (but I could go on about their support too).

Shirley Kehr

frank@mnetor.UUCP (Frank Kolnick) (07/03/90)

In article <147103@felix.UUCP> kehr@felix.UUCP (Shirley Kehr) writes:
)...
)Like Canvas, they seem to have good ideas and build a feature-rich program.
)Canvas is easier to use that just about any drawing program, but if you
)just draw a simple box and put it in Word, two of the sides won't print.
)How can they give us so much in neat features and ease of use tools, then
)fail so miserably on simple things like printing and documentation. (If
)you're an original Canvas owner, you know what I mean about the set of
)update manuals. We have nothing but a mish-mash of pieces of documentation.)

The clipping problem doesn't seem to be unique to Canvas. E.g., it also 
happens with FreeHand drawings imported into Word (hence, I suspect Word :-).
It only seems to happen when a line type of object (as opposed to text) is the
outermost object. I get around the problem by drawing an invisible rectangle
around the entire image. 

I agree with your sentiments about Canvas and Deneba in general. I've
given up on Canvas. Things that line up properly on the screen
don't when printed (e.g., arrow-heads). (I now use FreeHand and
Illustrator exclusively. I think Canvas just can't handle PostScript
output.) Support? Ha!

-- 
Frank Kolnick,
Basis Computer Systems Inc.
UUCP: {allegra, linus}!utzoo!mnetor!frank