clubmac@runx.oz (Macintosh Users Group) (08/16/89)
1) Will the DeskWriter use Outline fonts (ala System 7.0) when they are released by Apple? 2) Can you convert Postscript fonts to the Intellifont format used by HP? 3) Will a spooler be available that is compatible with the DeskWriter? Thanks in advance, _____________________________________________________________________________ | Jason Haines | | President, Club Mac - Australia's Largest Macintosh Users Group | | | | INTERNET: clubmac@runx.oz.au UUCP: uunet!runx.oz.au!clubmac | |_____________________________________________________________________________|
jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) (08/18/89)
In article <158@runxtsa.runx.oz> clubmac@runx.oz (Macintosh Users Group) writes:
I've got a question too: What do people think of the water-soluble
ink used in the DW? Is it easy to smear? When will HP have a
non-soluble ink?
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jas@isi.edu DELPHI: JSULLIVAN | University of Southern Californiamjkobb@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Michael J Kobb) (08/18/89)
In article <9358@venera.isi.edu> jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) writes: >In article <158@runxtsa.runx.oz> clubmac@runx.oz (Macintosh Users Group) writes: > >I've got a question too: What do people think of the water-soluble >ink used in the DW? Is it easy to smear? When will HP have a >non-soluble ink? I tried out the DeskWriter at the dealer, and one of the big things on my mind was the soluability of the ink. The salesperson claimed that the DW was using standard laserprinter paper, although I'm not sure I trust him (he also claimed that the CS Palacio font [Palatino] wasn't installed, and that the magnificent 72-point text I was seeing was a scaled screen font.... :-)) First, a note on the way the DW prints: The printout comes out sliding along on top of a pair of rails above the output bin. When the page is finished printing, the rails move aside and the page drops onto the stack in the bin. I assume that this is in order for the ink on the page below to dry before another sheet is dropped on top. With this assumption in mind, I tried the _second-from top_ sheet on the output stack with a dry finger. No problem. Nothing. Then I dampened a finger and ran it over text. Very slight smear. Then, a dampened finger over a solid rectangle. Larger smear (very noticeable). Then a _really_ dampened finger and lots of pressure on text. BIG smear. Okay, so I took the printouts home. On the subway, that took about an hour. Then, I tried it all again. This time, for text, it took a significant amount of both moisture and pressure to induce text to smear, and much more than before to make the rectangle smear. Read: it dries more over time, and becomes difficult to smear. NOW, the fix: There are two, actually. You can spray each sheet with a fixative (from an art-supply store). I haven't tried this, since I don't own one of the printers. It would be worth a shot, though... Second: In MacWeek's review of the DW, they say that HP is working on a non-soluable ink for the printer, though they don't give any estimated dates. The conjecture from folks that I've talked to is that it should be a _real_ easy conversion, since both the inkwell _and_ the printhead are replaced with each ink cartridge. Therefore, any changes that need to be made to the printhead won't be something you have to take the printer to the dealer for. It will be automatic when you change ink. :-) --Mike Disclaimer: I hate disclaimers. I think they're a sad statement about our society. Nonetheless, nothing I say can or should be construed as having ever been said by anyone. Ever.
bezanson@adobe.COM (Brian Bezanson) (08/22/89)
In article <158@runxtsa.runx.oz> clubmac@runx.oz (Macintosh Users Group) writes: >1) Will the DeskWriter use Outline fonts (ala System 7.0) when they are > released by Apple? Maybe, ask HP and Apple - otherwise I won't comment much here :-) >2) Can you convert Postscript fonts to the Intellifont format used by HP? WHy would you want to (another :-). If you've looked at MacWeek or read the posting by David Gelphman last week, you may know that Adobe has been showing and using the Adobe Type Manager (available October) to use Outline Type 1 PostScript fonts to show perfect screen fonts (no jaggies) and to print them on any output device in maximum resolution. So if you have an ImageWriter, LaserWriter SC, DeskWriter - then you'll be blown away. Take any font from the Adobe library (or our other vendors using Adobe's font building technology), and print it - straight, rotated, whatever - and you'll like the results. It turns an imagewriter into a great looking printer for fonts. ATM will also be great for those using slide makers, and other output devices. So what is all this saying - go see ATM when it comes out. At $99 retail, it should be a great Christmas buy. >Thanks in advance, >| Jason Haines | >| President, Club Mac - Australia's Largest Macintosh Users Group | No problem, but remember I'm biased. For an unbiased opinion, look at MacWeek and Jonathan Seybold's comment that said "If Apple technology is not significantly better than Adobe [technology], users are better off with [ATM],". Personal opinions all mine, Brian Bezanson Adobe Systems Incorporated
mtoy@sgi.com (Michael Toy) (09/19/89)
I am a reasonably satisfied DeskWriter owner, but I do have a few questions. If anybody out there knows the answers, please E-Mail me and I'll summarize back to comp.sys.mac. 1) Using FullWrite professional draw layer, it seems that a) Hairlines are the same as regular lines b) Lines are drawn at 300dpi resolution, but splines are drawn at 75dpi 2) Contrary to what the documentation, I can't get either of my workhorse programs (SuperPaint 2.0 or FullWrite) to print text at any of the 90 degree rotations at full resolution. If I make a document that says "Horizontal" aligned horizontally and "Vertical" rotated to stretch vertically, the word "Horizontal" comes out looking fine, but the "Vertical" has the jaggies. It is slightly humorous that if I do a "Page Setup" and change to landscape mode, "Horizontal" is still imaged right and "Vertical" is still wrong. 3) Does anybody know how well Adobe Type Manager works on the DeskWriter and if you can get fonts other than the standard LW Plus fonts from Adobe (or anywhere) for the DeskWriter? Thanks in advance, Michael Toy mtoy@sgi.com
anthonjw@clutx.clarkson.edu (Jason W. Anthony) (03/19/90)
I just received my DeskWriter, and it's great! I have a number of
questions I was wondering if someone could answer:
o What is the expected lifetime of a print cartridge?
o Does anyone know a source for less water-soluable ink? Does it have
any effect on print resoultion?
o Throughout the DeskWriter manual, it says in italics: "Do not use
inkjet paper." Does anyone know why? I purchased some paper called
Watermark Electronic Paper. It says it is 25% Cotton Fiber Content,
and good for electronic printers including ink jet, but the quality
is noticably less then the standard computer paper I used to use.
Anyone know why this might be?
Thanks for any help!
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***************************************************************************stevem@hpvcfs1.HP.COM (Steve Miller) (03/23/90)
>I just received my DeskWriter, and it's great! I have a number of >questions I was wondering if someone could answer: > > o What is the expected lifetime of a print cartridge? About 500 pages of typical text, 1000 pages in draft mode. Your milage may vary. > o Does anyone know a source for less water-soluable ink? Does it have > any effect on print resoultion? HP doesn't produce a water-fast ink yet and doesn't recommend filling the cartidge with your favorite ink. The wrong type of ink may gunk up the pen service station which caps and wipes the pen to keep it running clean. > o Throughout the DeskWriter manual, it says in italics: "Do not use > inkjet paper." Does anyone know why? Mainly because HP wanted to make sure that people didn't think they had to use special paper with this printer, unlike the ThinkJet or WriteMove which have much better print quality on special paper. Steven Miller Vancouver Division Hewlett Packard
marc_h@ele.tue.nl (Marc Heijligers) (07/25/90)
The documentation of my DeskWriter contained a little doc about the incompability with some applications. I like to know whether there are more of these applications. Can anyone tell me about the experiences one has with his (or her) DeskWriter. I will post a summary afterwards. My second question concerns printing of TIFF files. I have a file in Imagestudio format. As Imagestudio only prints 72dpi, I converted this file to a TIFF file. I haven't been able to load or print this file in any application. Even XPress converted this image to an ugly black and white posterized image. Does anyone know about an application that prints TIFF files (or other 300 dpi files) on the deskwriter. I am also curious if one can include such a picture in a wordprocessor document, without loosing the resolution. Thanks in advance Marc Heijligers marc_h@ele.tue.nl