[comp.sys.atari.st] Info-Atari16 Digest V86 #15

Info-Atari16@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU (Info-Atari16 Digest) (11/19/86)

Info-Atari16 Digest   Tuesday, November 18, 1986   Volume 86 : Issue 15

This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield

Today's Topics:

                         Bit blit chip.
                   stspeech sources available!
                          Re: STSPEECH
                       MAC fonts/and draw
           reports on Atari announcements at COMDEX ??
                   Monochrome Screen Expansion
                  Copyright Notice and STSPEECH
                    TECHNICAL WORD PROCESSING
                        C-Compiler query
                          Re: ROM PATCH
                         Mark Williams C
                         UNITERM mailing
                 Re: INFO-ATARI16 Digest V86 #01

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Nov 86 13:13:48 PST
From: <XITIUGRA@ddathd21.bitnet>
Reply-To: XITIUGRA%DDATHD21.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
To: INFO-ATARI16@score.stanford.edu

Received: from THDBS2#1.FB20.THD.DA.EUROPE by DDATHD21.BITNET
          via GNET with RJE with RCOM ; 13 Nov 86 15:42:47
Date:     Thu, 13 November 1986 15:00:00 +0100 (Central European Time)
From:     XITIUGRA@DDATHD21.BITNET  ( Klaus Guntermann, THD )
To:       info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

Complete implementation of TeX 2.0 for the Atari-ST series
(requires 1MB RAM, monochrome monitor and double sided disk drives;
hard disk is recommended, but not a must).

The features are:

  - TeX auto-sizes internal mem-array to available memory

  - size of internal memory for fonts, strings and string pool
    can be modified in the commandline.

  - handles ST's extended national character set such as
    accented characters/umlauts in input files
    (separate expansion program for source files included)

  - INITeX to generate your own preloaded macro packages

  - includes PLAIN, LaTeX and AMSTeX macro packages

  - hyphenation patterns for English and German language

  - BIBTeX processor for bibliographic references for use with
    LaTeX macro package

  - screen preview for monochrome monitor using 100dpi fonts
    - change of magnification in mag steps,
    - reduction to half width and height for general layout inspection,
    - random page access (absolute, relative),
    - menu and keyboard operation for most functions

  - dot matrix printer drivers are available for
    - NEC P5, P6, P7 and compatibles (180 dpi),
    - Fujitsu DPL24-D (180dpi),
    - Star NL10, Epson FX80 and compatibles (240 x 216dpi).

  - all drivers (preview and printer) are distributed with a font set
    in magnification steps 0, 0.5, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

The costs (Germany residents add 14% sales tax):
  TeX including macro packages and screen preview   about  400.- DM
  dot matrix printer driver                         about  200.- DM

Reduced rates for complete packages and campus licenses for
educational institutions available.

For further information please contact

      Kettler EDV-Consulting
      P.O. Box 1345
      D-8172 Lenggries
      Federal Republic of Germany

------------------------------

Date:     Fri, 14 Nov 86 02:35 EDT
From:  netmgr%UMass.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU  (Network Manager, Hampshire
To:  info-atari16@su-score.arpa
Subject:  Bit blit chip.

Does anyone out there know anything about the Atari bit-blit chip I keep
hearing about?  Is it something likely to actually exist, if not now then in
the future?  Will it be available as a retrofit for existing STs?  How much
does it cost?  Any answers to any of these questions would be appreciated.

	Thanks.

	Pete Shirley

Please send replies directly to me as the distributed ones don't usually
make it here. Thanks.

ARPA: mturtle%umass.bitnet@wisc.arpa
BITNET: mturtle@umass

------------------------------

Date: 14 Nov 86 07:51:08 GMT
From: voder!kontron!stephan@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Stephan W. Wendl)
Subject: stspeech sources available!
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

> 
> Info-Atari16 Digest   Thursday, November 13, 1986   Volume 86 : Issue 14
> 
> This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 86 07:08:27 cst
> From: moore@ncsc.ARPA (Moore)
> To: info-atari16@su-score.ARPA
> Subject: stspeech ???
> 
> Is there a way to tell stspeech to read its input from a file rather than the
> keyboard?  Imagine:  talking 1ST_Word!!!
> 
> 




If there is no objection from the original authors of "stspeech" I will post 
the sources to it on the net. it was written in assembly language and is about
3000 lines long. Most of the code is table information which stems probably
from some professional language analysis study

I received the sources by disassembling the binary with a commercial disassem-
bler available for the st. If there is enough interrest and no objection from
A.D.Beveridge and M.N. Day (authors) I will post it. It might take me still
some while until everything is in a nice form with comments and nice under-
standable labels. If there are any questions about it or the disassembler send
email.



Stephan W. Wendl

------------------------------

Date: 14 Nov 86 14:38:08 PST (Friday)
From: Bicer.ES@Xerox.COM
Subject: Re: STSPEECH
In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 13 Nov 86 10:06:20 PST
To: Info-Atari16@Score.Stanford.edu

STSPEECH is a great program. I think something like this really adds to
the value of an ST. Just one wish though, could STSPEECH read its input
from a file?


	Jack Bicer


Bicer.ES@Xerox.COM

------------------------------

Date: 14 Nov 86 13:34:59 PST (Friday)
From: BillHolland.ES@Xerox.COM
Subject: MAC fonts/and draw
To: Info-Atari16@Score.Stanford.edu
Reply-To: BillHolland.ES@Xerox.COM

Does anyone know of a utilities that convert "MAC" fonts and Draw
pictures into something that the atari can use,maybe Degas or EZ DRAW,
also where can I find fed.prg. and one last thought,also a way to
convert IBM pics as well as Apple.Commodore "ClipArt",boy that would be
great.Can you load more that one font with "DEGAS ELITE"?? Has anyone
done a 2 or 4meg upgrade to a  "ST"

Bill

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 14 Nov 86 21:29:09 pst
From: neville@ads.ARPA (Neville Newman)
To: info-atari16@su-score.arpa
Subject: reports on Atari announcements at COMDEX ??

Supposedly Atari was to have unveiled a new package for the ST line
and possibly announced the 2 and 4 Meg machines for the US at COMDEX
this past week.  Can someone who went elaborate on what Atari had
to say/show there?  Neil, maybe you can issue some official words
now that COMDEX is over (?).

The rumor that i read in Computer Currents is that the new package
for the ST line will be 2" high, include built-in power supply and
drive (i think), and an internal bracket for a hard disk.  It would
be great if such a repackaging also gave the 1040's the phantom
composite video output.

						-neville

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
U.S. Mail:  Neville D. Newman
	    Advanced Decision Systems
	    201 San Antonio Circle, Suite 286
	    Mountain View, CA  94040-1289

Phone:	    (415) 941-3912
Net mail:   neville@ads.arpa	(internet-relative)

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 16 Nov 86 02:00:52 EST
From: maccarle@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Carl A Maccarley)
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
Subject: Monochrome Screen Expansion

Recently posted to the net was the following:

>   I got my 520ST yesterday and I have some question.
>   My monitor is mono and size of actual screen is 9.5 in diagonally.
>   Is this normal or need adjustment or defect monitor?
>   It looks like Mac screen on big atari face.

>   J. Lee
>   ucbvax!sdcsvax!sdcc6!ir648

This appears to be indeed normal, as all the monochrome monitors I have seen
are set up this way.  I could venture a number of plausible guesses as to why
Atari or Goldstar adjusts the monitors for reduced true screen area, but I
would rather defer to someone closer to Atari, if they would care to comment.

Fortunately, this deficiency is easily rectified with a few adjustments
on the monitor chassis.  For most monitors, a screen image which completely
fills the CRT face is possible.  The required adjustments can be quickly made
by a repair person at the dealer from which the system was purchased.
The repairman at my local dealer routinely makes these adjustments.  If your
ST is still under warranty, I would strongly suggest that approach, although
I can't see how a few corrective adjustments could be construed as a violation
of the terms of the warranty.  Anyone buying a new monochrome ST should
request that this fix be done at the time of purchase.  

If you feel comfortable working inside a TV set while it is on, I have 
attempted to describe the procedure below.  No modifications whatsoever are
required, and if caution and common sense are observed, you should have no
trouble in adjusting the screen image for whatever size and shape you desire.
If you lack experience around the high voltages found on any TV chassis, this
procedure might best be done by a hardware-hacker friend or any TV repair
shop.

This info may be common knowledge to many hardware types out there.  Also,
I have only followed the net since June, so this might have been discussed
previously.  If either is the case, please pardon the net clutter.

Please be careful.  I've tried to describe the procedure as simply and
completely as possible, but I do not assume any responsibility for damage to
your system or personal injury.
It is possible that these adjustments might have a deleterious effect on
the long-term reliability of the monitor.
This information comes exclusively from my own limited experience and
discussions with the excellent technical people at my local dealer.
It bears no official sanction or recommendation from Atari or anyone else,
and may very likely meet with disapproval from Atari.  

REQUIRED TOOLS

A plastic RF alignment tool, which has an approximately 0.10" hex end
   (This can be purchased at a Radio Shack or similar store in a "Color TV
    Alignment Tool Kit", which sells for $2.99 at Radio Shack)

A long narrow-blade screwdriver, preferably with an insulated handle (plastic)

A medium phillips screwdriver

A pair of needle-nose pliers or long tweezers

ASSUMED HARDWARE

Atari SM124 Monitor.  All the ones I have encountered are manufactured by
Goldstar, but I claim no general knowledge of all possible suppliers.
The procedure described here refers to the Goldstar units.

CAUTIONARY NOTES

High voltage is present on any monitor (TV) chassis in two forms:
> The accelerating voltage supplied to the CRT (Cathode Ray Tube).  This is
  on the order of 10KV, although the available current is small.  Regardless,
  contact between it and the chassis ground is very dangerous.
> 120 VAC line current.  No further comment necessary.

The CRT is a large fragile glass object; especially the back of it (the 
electron gun).  Due caution required.

OPENING THE MONITOR CASE

Disconnect the power cord from the interlock on the back of the monitor.

Disconnect the video cable from the back of the 520/1040 ST.

Place the monitor face-down on a padded surface.
Five self-tapping phillips-head screws secure the back of the monitor case.
Remove these.

Carefully lift the back off, only a few inches, because the speaker lead
is still connected between the speaker on the back of the case, and the
chassis.  Disconnect the small speaker connector from the chassis using
needle nose pliers or a long pair of tweezers.  This requires care and 
patience, since you're holding the back of the case in your other hand.
After this is disconnected, completely remove the back, feeding the video
cable through the hole in the back.

THE ADJUSTMENTS

Place the monitor upright again, and reconnect the power and video cables.
Turn the monitor and computer on.  Display something with sufficient detail
in it to make resetting the focus (final step) easy.  A desktop full of
file icons is a good choice.

There are a total of eight possible adjustments available on the chassis which
affect the size and orientation of the screen image on the CRT face.  They
are synergistic, that is, they do not each have an independent effect on the
screen image.  An iterative procedure is necessary to achieve the exact
display dimensions you desire.
In locating each of these adjustment points, I will assume that you are facing
the monitor screen, so that the rear of the chassis is farthest from you, and
the right side of the chassis is the side with the control knobs on it.

With the back of the case removed, many hazardous electrical paths 
are exposed.   This is the reason for the dire warning on the back of
the case.  As a general rule, do not allow your hand or any part of your
body to directly contact anything.

Just by way of orientation, the main power supply is on the left side
of the chassis, and the high voltage supply on the right.  The tall 
black object is the flyback transformer, used to generate the CRT high
voltage.  The thick lead extending from the top of it to the rubber boot
on the top of the CRT carries several thousand volts.  Stay clear of it.

At the right rear of the chassis are five adjustment trimmers (three
miniature trimpots and two adjustable ferrite core inductors).
Their names can be found printed in small letters next to each trimmer,
on the printed circuit board.  I will refer to each by these names.

Using the plastic alignment tool, adjust the tall "H SIZE" trimmer.
Note its effect on the image width.  Increase the width until the image
extends across most of the screen.

The square black "H LIN" adjustment requires the use of the narrow blade
screwdriver.  It primarily affects the linearity (evenness) of the screen
image in the horizontal direction.  But it also has a significant effect
on the overall width of the image.  Adjust it iteratively with "H SIZE".

Is the image offset to the right or left of the screen center?  The
"H CENTER" trimpot will fix this.  Adjust it using the alignment tool.

Do not touch the "SUB BRIGHT" trimmer. 
Don't worry about the "FOCUS" trimmer yet; it is adjusted last.

When the width and horizontal centering are close to desirable, move 
on to the vertical adjustments....

On the left of the chassis printed circuit board, just behind the
main power supply and underneath the CRT, are three vertical adjustment
trimmers marked "V LIN","V SIZE", and "V HOLD".  We will use only 
"V SIZE" and "V LIN".

Adjust "V SIZE" to increase the height of the image.  This requires
the use of the screwdriver side of the alignment tool, or the narrow
screwdriver if the trimmer is too stiff to turn with the alignment 
tool.  Any residual magnetism in the metal screwdriver will distort
the image, so check the image after each "tweek", with the screw-
driver far from the monitor.
The previously adjusted "H LIN" also affects vertical height, and
might require iterative tweeking to achieve the desired image height.
I found one monitor for which it was not possible to get a full-height
screen image, although some increase in screen height always seems
to be possible. 

The "V LIN" adjustment can be used to correct any vertical nonlinearity
introduced by the re-sizing.  Adjust it only if necessary.

Is the image now crooked, diagonally distorted, or still not up to 
your final desired dimensions?  For these ailments, we move to the
two flat gray adjustment rings on the deflection yoke, which lives
on the neck of the CRT.  There is a tab protruding from each one that
can be used to rotate the ring.  When adjusting these, be careful
not to touch the four exposed terminals on the top of the deflection
yoke.

Rotation of these two rings should cure any remaining alignment or
size deficiencies, although readjustment of previous trimmers may be
necessary to achieve the ideal screen image.

If, when completed, the image is crooked on the screen, it may be
necessary to slightly rotate the entire deflection yoke assembly.
To do this, you must first loosen the metal clamp at the rear of the
yoke, which locks the yoke to the neck, using a small phillips screw-
driver.  Be careful, since the neck of the CRT is very fragile.
Once the clamp is loose, the yoke can be rotated slightly in either
direction; the image rotates with it.  When the image is level,
re-tighten the clamp GENTLY, just enough to prevent movement of the
yoke.

Finally, it may be necessary to reset the focus.  This is done with
the long-stem "FOCUS" trimmer at the extreme right rear of the chassis.
It is not possible to get a perfect focus everywhere on the screen.
The factory usually sets up the monitor for optimum focus at the
center of the screen.  I prefer optimum focus about half-way between
the center and the edges.

I find that an ideal image size for the SM124 seems to be with the
image bordered approximately 0.5 to 1 cm. all around.  Too close to the
edges introduces edge distortion, which may or may not bother you. 

REINSTALLING THE BACK OF THE CASE

Disconnect the power cord from the interlock and unplug the video cable
from the ST.  Feed the video cable through its corresponding hole
in the case.  Reconnecting the speaker lead requires the use of
long-nose tweezers or needle-nose pliers, and some patience.  Notice
that the connector is polarized (one orientation only) even though it
doesn't need to be for a speaker connection.  It should gently snap
into place on the board.
Finally, reinstall the case back with the five self-tapping screws.
Reconnect the power and video cables, and you're back in business.

SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THE MONITOR

The SM124 is particularly sensitive to surrounding magnetic fields.
A digital clock placed on top of it will cause intolerable distortion
of the image.  The wall-mount power supply of my modem introduced an
"edge-jitter" in the image, even though it was six inches from the back
of the monitor.  If you observe similar anomalies, check for any possible
sources of magnetic fields nearby.

The resolution and crispness of the SM124 sets new industry cost-perfor-
mance standards for personal computers.  With the monitor correctly
adjusted, the display becomes the closest thing to a personal work-
station for anywhere near the price.  I sincerely hope that more of
the excellent drawing and game programs currently available only for
the color ST's will be made available in monochrome versions also, or
incorporate monochrome compatibility in future versions.

PARTING WORDS

Any comments, corrections, observations, or flames regarding this
posting are welcome.  Unless they are of general interest to the net,
please direct them to me personally at my ARPA address below.

Happy tweeking,
Carl
maccarle@ed.ecn.purdue.edu

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 16 Nov 86 11:24:36 est
From: Eric Terrell <terrell@ohio-state.ARPA>
To: info-atari16@su-score.arpa
Subject: Copyright Notice and STSPEECH


I'm not a lawyer either, but doesn't the copyright notice have to be visible
when the program runs?  I don't think that individuals are required to
disassemble the object code to find the notice.

Terrell

------------------------------

Date: 16 NOV 1986 17:56:01 EST
From: <MARKS-ROGER@YALE.ARPA>
To: info-atari16@su-score,MARKS-ROGER@YALE.ARPA
Subject:  TECHNICAL WORD PROCESSING
Reply-To: <MARKS-ROGER@YALE.ARPA>

I'd like to use my ST for producing technical papers (equations with various
mathematical symbols; text too, of course) to be submitted for publication.
I'd like some help deciding how to go.  

I'm hesitant to learn TeX and think of it as overkill for producing work which
be will typeset by someone else.  What I'd like to use is some kind of
technical font with a "real-time" word-processor.  Something akin to the
Symbol font available for the Mac is what I have in mind; you see the stuff
as you type it, and the output is legible (or beautiful on a Laserwriter).

First question: where can I get such a font for the ST?

Second question: are fonts and word-processors independent?  That is, am I
looking for a word-processor to produce symbols or just a font to use with
the one I have (1stWORD)?

Third questions: will I be able to print on any dot-matrix printer for which
I have a driver?  Will I be able to get high-quality output?  Is a driver
available which would enable me to print on the Apple Laserwriter, accessing
the Laserwriter's built-in fonts?

Fourth question: could I do this stuff with Mac software if I could get my
hands on a Magic Sac?  Would I then also be able to run the Laserwriter?

As you can see, I'm a bit mystified as to how to proceed.  I am somewhat 
consoled that my local dealer has no idea either, except to offer me a
program with which I can create fonts of my own design, a suggestion which
I am as of yet loathe to even consider.  Suggestions of any kind will be
genuinely appreciated.  Thanks.

Roger
Marks@yale.arpa

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 16 Nov 86 22:10:46 PST
From: <XBR1YD22@ddathd21.bitnet>
Reply-To: XBR1YD22%DDATHD21.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
Subject:  C-Compiler query

Received: from BR1.THD.DA.D.EUROPE by DDATHD21.BITNET
          via GNET with RJE ; 16 Nov 86 23:35:29
Date:     Sun, 16 Nov 86 23:37:18 +0100 (Central European Time)
From:     XBR1YD22@DDATHD21.BITNET (Ralf Bayer {Herz-Baerchi})
Subject:  C-Compiler query
To:       info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
X-VMS-To: X%"info-atari16@score.stanford.edu",YD22

Hi,

 in the very near future I'm going to buy a C-compiler. I am pretty sure
I won't buy the development system, and I also heard bad things about
Megamax C (I definitely will not buy a thing that limits me to 32K global
variable space ...).

 So the question is: Mark Williams versus Lattice C. I've heard good things
about both of them, and I'd like to get the assembler with the compiler
(speaks for MWC), but first I have a few questions to the netters:

1) Can I use MWC with one double sided disk and about 500K RAM-disk
   (that would leave me about 320k of free RAM in my 1040)?

2) Which known bugs are in MWC and Lattice C?

3) What about the GEM/AES/TOS bindings? As far as I read there are
   some problems with the AES bindings of Lattice C.

4) How good is the debugger of MWC (compared to, say, the VAX/VMS debugger)?

5) What about the possibility to link C-subprograms with other languages
   like Pascal, Fortran etc. bought from other vendors (there has to
   be compatibility in the format of the link file and in the way
   subprograms are called and parameters are passed to the stack)

6) Is it true that MWC is slow?

7) How good is the documentation of both of them?

OK, that's it so far. Any answers are welcome, please mail them directly
to me, I will summarize to the net what I will get.

Thanks all

Ralf Bayer (The Care-Baer)
Computing Center @ the Technical University of Darmstadt, West Germany

Arpanet:   xbr1yd22%ddathd21.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.EDU
BITNET:    xbr1yd22@ddathd21
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
                  > REAL programmers use FORTRAN <
            > modern REAL programmers hack around in C <

------------------------------

Date: 17 Nov 86 18:52:13 GMT
From: ihnp4!ihnet!bryan@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (b. k. delaney)
Subject: Re: ROM PATCH
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

For those of you who want the ROM Patch
for a 30% decrease in disk I/O time here is the
correct info:
					      old  new	
Chip	U7 Atari #C026165		0DC5  00   NC
Adress  0DC7				0DC6  04   NC
					0DC7  14   10
Old data	14 hex			0DC8  24   NC
New data	10 hex			0DC9  0A   NC

Checksum of U7 (Data I/O Programmer)
29E4 (0DC7 = 14 old data)
29E0 (0DC7 = 10 new data)
I used an Intel D27256 
				ihnet!bryan
				Bryan DeLaney
				AT&T Bell Laboratories
				Naperville, IL
				312-979-6368

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Nov 86 22:52:15 PST
From: <KJBSF@slacvm.bitnet>
Reply-To: KJBSF%SLACVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
To: INFO-ATARI16@score.STANFORD.EDU
Subject:  Mark Williams C

Date: 17 November 86 22:51-PST
From: KJBSF@SLACVM
To: INFO-ATARI16@SCORE
Subject: Mark Williams C

Date: 17 November 1986, 22:49:29 PST
From: Kevin J. Burnett          x3330                <KJBSF@SLACVM>
To:   <INFO-ATARI16@SCORE.STANFORD>
Subject: Mark Williams C
Forwarded-from: KJBSF

When I try to compile a program in MWC that uses AES/VDI routines, I
always get the messages:
      Ld: a:\lib\libaes.a: outdated ranlib
      Ld: a:\lib\libvdi.a: outdated ranlib

What in the world does this mean?  I couldn't find the error message
in the manual ANYWHERE, which is kind of strange as the rest of the
manual is quite good.

Please help, as this is getting quite frustrating being stuck with
printf("hello, world.\n"); style programs.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Nov 86 23:57:46 PST
From: <XBR1Y049@ddathd21.bitnet>
Reply-To: XBR1Y049%DDATHD21.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
Subject:  UNITERM mailing

Received: from BR1.THD.DA.D.EUROPE by DDATHD21.BITNET
          via GNET with RJE ; 18 Nov 86 08:49:59
Date:     Tue, 18 Nov 86 08:48:56 +0100 (Central European Time)
From:     XBR1Y049@DDATHD21.BITNET (Stephan Leicht c/o HRZ TH Darmstadt, Germany
 )
Subject:  UNITERM mailing
To:       info-atari16@Score.Stanford.edu
X-VMS-To: ATARI_SIG


To unburden Simon Poole from requests to resent UNITERM, I will send
a copy to everyone, who drops a mail with a request to me.
I tried to connect some people, who claims in the list for the UNITERM,
but I didn't get through to everyone.
So this way. Try to connect me.

Greetings from Germany
                        Stephan

        Name : Stephan Leicht
Organisation : Computer Center of Technical University Darmstadt, Germany
      Bitnet : XBR1Y049@DDATHD21
                                 insert all usual & unusual disclaimers here -->
18-Nov-86 11:29:45-PST,1712;000000000011
Return-Path: <steve@tecnet-clemson>
Received: from tecnet-clemson.ARPA by SU-SCORE.ARPA with TCP; Tue 18 Nov 86 11:29:29-PST
Received: by tecnet-clemson.ARPA (4.12/4.7)
	id AA09502; Tue, 18 Nov 86 14:28:11 est
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 86 14:28:11 est
From: steve@tecnet-clemson
Message-Id: <8611181928.AA09502@tecnet-clemson.ARPA>
To: info-atari16@su-score
Subject: ST software:  Where?

     A friend of mine recently purchased a 1040ST, and now is in
desperate need of some software (A RAM disk, an archiver,  and
terminal software, primarily.)  I am looking on his behalf for this.
     In my niave view of the world, I looked at the <info-atari>
directory on SU-SCORE, as my netinfo file told me to do.  Unless I'm
really missing something here, there is a signifigant amount of software
that is posted someplace else.  Normally my next line of defence would be
an ST-oriented BBS, but living in a computer hinterland like South Carolina
requires some hefty long-distance usage for such things--
a price I'm not interested in paying unless I can be guaranteed
to hit software in large concentrations.  To complicate the issue,
this friend of mine had no brains and did not budget for a C-compiler,
making executable code, or Modula-2 source necessary.
     So, (As I meander to the point) Where on the arpanet can I find
software?  Or, which BBS can I call to get software--reasonably close
to Upstate South Carolina?
     Please send any replies directly to me, as I do not subscribe to
info-atari.

				- Steve Benz

"The great thing about TV is that if something really important happens,
	anywhere in the world, you can always change the channel."
							-- Rev. Jim, "Taxi"

------------------------------

Posted-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 86 14:25:32 mst
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 86 14:25:32 mst
From: Brent J. Ostlund <nike!rutgers!husc6!ut-sally!utah-cs!uplherc!oodis01!ostlund@cad.Berkeley.EDU>
To: uplherc!SCORE.STANFORD.EDU!INFO-ATARI16
Subject: Re: INFO-ATARI16 Digest V86 #01
In-Reply-To: <8611010231.AA15050@ucbvax.berkeley.edu>

	I just got back from COMDEX in Vegas where a nifty $60.00 box was being
demonstrated that will let you plug into a composite monitor.  The
colors will never be the stunning ones you get on an ST but will be as
good as the monitor is capable of generating or the composite signal 
will let through.  All in all, not bad.  Should be available in 
January.  Company name?  Funny you should ask since I can't find it in 
this 4 ft.  stack of literature.  I will post the company name as soon 
as I find it (by Dec.).  Obviously I have no affiliation with this 
company that I can't remember. One of the folks at ATARI may be able to
help you impatient ones.  I know Sig Hartman previewed it. 

Brent Ostlund

------------------------------

End of Info-Atari16 Digest
**************************
-------