Info-Atari16@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU (Info-Atari16 Digest) (12/01/86)
Info-Atari16 Digest Sunday, November 30, 1986 Volume 86 : Issue 25
This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield
Today's Topics:
using vanilla Alcyon compiler for an ST?
Re: Downloading problems & software req
STarter Kit clarification
Re: ST help
less
Public Domain Chess Program (monochrome only)
uudecoding
gnuplot on ST in native mode
Re: SPEECH
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 86 17:00:24 pst
From: neville@ads.ARPA (Neville Newman)
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
Subject: using vanilla Alcyon compiler for an ST?
Does anyone know the details of whether the Alcyon C compiler
for the ST differs substantially from the one for vanilla
CP/M-68K ? Ditto for the linkage editor. What i'm hoping
is that i can use libraries supplied with the ST and compile
with the Alcyon compiler that i already have.
i mainly want to use the ST as a graphics processor, and
don't want to have to get another C compiler. Note that
the question of which C compiler is better is not relevant
here, and so all such messages will be tossed out.
-neville
U.S. Mail: Neville D. Newman
Advanced Decision Systems
201 San Antonio Circle, Suite 286
Mountain View, CA 94040-1289
Net mail: neville@ads.arpa (internet-relative)
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Date: 23 Nov 86 05:42:00 GMT
From: osiris!skidmore@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu
Subject: Re: Downloading problems & software req
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
I'm having the same diificulty. Take for instance the less program.
After deleting the headers, I found that I had 583 lines and about
36546 characters, instead of the indicated 581 lines and 36408
characters. After uudecoding, a check with vi came up with "Incomplete
last line. 300 lines, 25984 characters. (1034 nul, 10300 non-ASCII)".
I don't think this is right.
Anyone willing to set me on the right track with this? I've missed out
on so much software, I'm getting a bit frustrated!
T.I.A.
-Paul Skidmore
University of Illinois
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Date: 25 Nov 86 14:29:00 GMT
From: ihnp4!inuxc!iuvax!franco@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: STarter Kit clarification
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
This is to correct some confusion about sending for the STarter Kit.
Double Sided disks are fine but they should be formatted single sided
(I am afraid that I only have a single sided drive).
Send 5 formatted disks, SASE, packing material to
John Franco
2535 Spicewood Lane
Bloomington, IN 47401
USA
If you want netland goodies instead of HACK please indicate this and specify
the goodies you want (some of the most useful goodies like ARC, UUDECODE,
KERMIT are already included - If you want MicroEmacs 3.7i please specify
(although I do not think it is worth the trouble as it has serious
limitations (two possibly more useful versions of EMACS are included)).
If you want VIX or STEDIT (I am not sure I can give STEDIT out - I will have
to check on that one) please specify. Also, from the HP notesfile, we have
an HP terminal emulator for the ST. (again, please specify).
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Date: 27 Nov 86 02:34:28 GMT
From: mcvax!botter!ark!Patrick@seismo.css.gov (Patrick van Kleef)
Subject: Re: ST help
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
I'm posting this for a friend who has no access to the net:
----
Why the Atari requires so much diskswapping is a mystery
to me (I do know it checks the disk-space on the target disk),
but there is one simple and effective solution:
Use a RamDisk as drive C: or D:, copy the file onto the
ramdisk, remove the destination disk, insert the target disk and
then copy the file from ramdisk to the destionation disk. Only
one swap necessary!
You'll be able to find a ramdisk in earlier netpostings!
Oo Paul Molenaar
---- END OF POSTING FOR A FRIEND
You can use my address for replies
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Date: 27 Nov 86 08:37:19 GMT
From: zen!buddy.Berkeley.EDU!c9c-bg@cad.Berkeley.EDU (James A. Landay)
Subject: less
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
Could someone please send me a copy of LESS and SPEECH, I couldn't get
either to work.
thanks,
James Landay
c9c-bg@buddy.berkeley.edu or landay@violet.berkeley.edu
[Since these were aparently sent from arpa and never arrived, it would
be better if someone more local to the requestor mailed them a copy,
rather than having me try to mail them another copy... -BillW]
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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 86 14:25:13 est
From: Eric Terrell <terrell@ohio-state.ARPA>
To: info-atari16@su-score.arpa
Subject: Public Domain Chess Program (monochrome only)
I have in my possession a public domain chess program from Germany.
All the documentation is written in German. I know that some of our
people in netland speak German - so I'll post the documentation files,
and when someone sends me the translated files, I'll post the game.
Thanks in advance,
Eric Bergman-Terrell
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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 86 14:25:55 est
From: Eric Terrell <terrell@ohio-state.ARPA>
To: info-atari16@su-score.arpa
KRABAT Icon Editor
==================
Zum Setzen eines Punktes linken Mausknopf an der gewuenschten Position
druecken.
Zum Loeschen eines Punktes den rechten Mausknopf in der gleichen Weise
verwenden.
Um ein Icon abzuspeichern, das EXIT-Feld mit dem linken Knopf anklicken.
Um den Editor ohne Speicherung des Bildes zu verlassen, das EXIT-Feld
mit dem rechten Mausknopf anklicken.
(C) Ulf Schmidt, 1986
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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 86 14:26:16 est
From: Eric Terrell <terrell@ohio-state.ARPA>
To: info-atari16@su-score.arpa
KRABAT RELEASE NOTES
====================
Version 0.0a (22. Maerz 1986):
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o En-passant-Zuege werden vom Programm als illegal abgewiesen.
Abhilfe: Den Zug im Editor ausfuehren.
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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 86 14:26:33 est
From: Eric Terrell <terrell@ohio-state.ARPA>
To: info-atari16@su-score.arpa
KRABAT Schach Version 0.0a
==========================
Eigenschaften:
o 36 Spielstufen
o Bewertungsfunktion abschaltbar fuer Mattaufgaben
o Farbwechsel in jeder Spielphase
o Zeigt erwogene Zuege, Stellungsbewertung und Rechentiefe
o Wahlweise Anzeige des Suchbaums
o Abschaltbarer Zufallsgenerator
o Nimmt beliebig viele Zuege zurueck
o Kuendigt Matt an
o Gibt selbsttaetig auf
o Reklamiert regelwidrige Stellungen
o Schachuhr fuer beide Parteien
o Sagt Schach, Matt und Patt an
o Erkennt Remis bei mangelndem Material (z.B. 2 Koenige)
o Volle Bedienung durch die Maus
o Grafische Brettdarstellung, vom Benutzer veraenderbar
o Einfache Eingabe von Stellungen durch speziellen Editor
o Public-Domain, darf kopiert und weitergegeben werden
o Die neueste Programmversion ist beim Autor erhaeltlich,
Unkostenbeitrag DM 30,00 bitte beilegen (Scheck)
o Hinweise und Anregungen zu dem Programm sind immer
gerne gesehen, bitte an den Autor richten.
Adresse des Autors:
Ulf-E. Schmidt
Alter Kirchweg 37
2820 Bremen 77
Spielstufen-Uebersicht:
Die Stufen 0 bis 9 arbeiten mit fester Rechentiefe,
die Stufen A bis Z mit Zeitvorgabe.
Stufe Rechentiefe bzw. Bedenkzeit Mattsuche
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0 0 Halbzuege -
1 1 Halbzug Matt in 1 Zug
2 2 Halbzuege Matt in 2 Zuegen
3 3 Halbzuege -
4 4 Halbzuege Matt in 3 Zuegen
5 5 Halbzuege -
6 6 Halbzuege Matt in 4 Zuegen
7 7 Halbzuege -
8 8 Halbzuege Matt in 5 Zuegen
9 9 Halbzuege -
A 5 s/Zug
B 10 s/Zug
C 20 s/Zug
D 30 s/Zug
E 40 s/Zug
F 1 min/Zug
G 90 s/Zug
H 2 min/Zug
I 150 s/Zug
J 3 min/Zug
K 3.5 min/Zug
L 4 min/Zug
M 4.5 min/Zug
N 5 min/Zug
O 6 min/Zug
P 7 min/Zug
Q 8 min/Zug
R 9 min/Zug
S 10 min/Zug
T 15 min/Zug
U 20 min/Zug
V 30 min/Zug
W 40 min/Zug
X 1 h/Zug
Y 2 h/Zug
Z 4 h/Zug
In der Datei RELEASE.NOT stehen Hinweise zur aktuellen Programmversion.
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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 86 16:00:50 est
From: Eric Terrell <terrell@ohio-state.ARPA>
To: info-atari16@su-score.arpa
Review of General Electric's GEnie On-Line Service
I'm sure that many of you have seen the advertisements for GEnie in
the Atari magazines.
I decided to give it a try, and for the most part I am pleased. First
off, the prices are reasonable. It cost me $18.00 to sign up, and from
then on it's $5.00/hr non-prime-time. Non-prime-time begins at 6:00
p.m. in the user's time zone. Customers in large cities will have
local numbers to dial up. For smaller cities users may have to call
a non-local number, and I think that there is a $2.00 surcharge for
cities that are not big users of the service. Uploads are free.
After paying the initial $18.00 one is sent a binder describing the
various services offered.
There is an Atari ST user's group, and they have a bulletin board with
discussions about many topics. There is also a large library of
public domain programs, music files, paint program files, etc.
I've got lots of fun programs from these libraries. One problem is
that some people that submit programs that work only with color
systems fail to warn monochrome users of this fact.
I have used CompuServe for about 2 hours, and unless I missed something,
it seems to me that the GEnie program libraries are much bigger than
CompuServes.
You can find out a little bit about the service by dialing a toll-free
number. You can look up the details in GEnie advertisements in all of
the Atari-specific magazines.
Oh, also, if you plan to use ST-TALK to download programs from GEnie
I don't recommend it. Apparently there are some bugs in ST-TALK that
make downloading very error prone.
In summary I recommend the service to people in the large cities who
can call a local number with no surcharge. $5.00 an hour seems
reasonable - I would end up paying much more than that calling the
Atari BBS in Sunnyvale because of the long-distance charges.
Terrell
Usual disclaimer: I am not financially involved with GEnie except
that I am a subscriber to the service.
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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 86 23:59 EST
From: Rodney <Peck@RADC-MULTICS.ARPA>
Subject: uudecoding
To: info-atari16@SU-SCORE.ARPA
Here's a thought to help out those of us who don't use a unix system
(I use a multics system quite similar but in PL/1 instead of C), and
don't have uudecode as part of the system:
How about posting a uudecode st gem type program here. (uuencoded so
those of us without compiliers can use it) We can all take that useful
(but SLOW) basic uudecoder and decode the new, compilied uudecoder. A
simple ttp program in C would do... the uudecode source in C is easily
obtained.
I have almost successfully written a uudecode program in PL/1 so if
there are any multics users who want what I have written so far, drop me
a line.
rodney
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Date: 27 Nov 86 15:11:53 GMT
From: mcvax!cernvax!jmg@seismo.css.gov (jmg)
Subject: gnuplot on ST in native mode
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
I have been impressed with running gnuplot (see net.sources) on a host to
which I connected with Uniterm. Apart from the fact that Uniterm is left
in Tektronix mode on quitting, it looks great. I am considering putting
in the mods to make it run on an ST in native mode (I have Megamax).
However, years of experience tell me that all ideas are either bad or have
already been implemented. Question therefore: has anyone already done it?
If so, what are the necessary routines needed in term.c?
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Date: 27 Nov 86 23:36:46 GMT
From: rutgers!clyde!watmath!utzoo!utcs!pete@lll-crg.arpa
Subject: Re: SPEECH
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
Keywords:SPEECH
Hi,
I also would *love* a copy of speech.
Thanks in advance,
Pete Santangeli
pete@utcs
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