MARKS-ROGER@YALE.ARPA (12/13/86)
After many months of reading (here and in print) about the Magic Sac (ex-MacCartridge), I still don't know how to get one. Could anyone please give me the address of Data Pacific? A few hints on getting ROMs would also be appreciated. Thanks, Roger Marks@yale.arpa -------
ravi@mcnc.UUCP (Ravi Subrahmanyan) (12/14/86)
One Magic Sac plus is available for sale: It's the 'plus'
version, with the clock. All I use it for is MacDraw type stuff, and
so having it on one machine is enough, therefore we're thinking of
getting rid of this one (towards a hard disk). It's in warranty, brand new
except the ROM's are plugged in, you'll get the registration card if you
wan't to send it in, latest version of driver software from David Small,
plus we could send some disks with Mac stuff already on it (including
drivers for epsons so you can use your printer if you use one with
the ST).
The list price for the Sac is $150, it's retailed for $120. ROMs
are an additional $50 (what we paid for them). Basically, you'll get
a brand new Sac, in the original packing etc., in warranty, without a
long wait. If interested, please send mail to me at:
{ucbvax, decvax, ihnp4, seismo}!mcnc!ravi
or
DSRAVI@TUCCVM (on bitnet, csnet address is preferred).
-ravi
(919)-383-1031 (H)
(919)-684-3123 (W)dhawk@well.UUCP (David Hawkins) (12/15/86)
In article <8612131706.AA11333@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> <MARKS-ROGER@YALE.ARPA> writes: > > After many months of reading (here and in print) about the Magic >Sac (ex-MacCartridge), I still don't know how to get one. Could anyone please >give me the address of Data Pacific? A few hints on getting ROMs would also >be appreciated. Data Pacific, Inc. 609 East Speer Blvd. Denver, CO, 80203 (303)735-8158 If you call them they would have some idea of where you can get ROMs. If you go to any of the atari fairs there will be signs up at booths that sell the ROMs. You can also ask at your local ST or Mac dealer. later, david
Patrick@ark.cs.vu.nl (Patrick van Kleef) (12/16/86)
Great News!!!! In Europe people succeeded in writing a *software* Mac Emulator. Which basically works the same as the hardware Magic Sac, but instead of needing a set of Macintosh Roms in the cartridge port, it loads the Rom contents into _memory_. Apart from this *everything* works the same. Mac Paint runs and so does all of the other stuff that could run on the Mac Sac. I'm inclined to believe that David Small (the inventor of the Magic Sac) just made a hardware version in order to boost his profits. Obviously, this works just as fine. BTW: A Mac emulator that uses the newer Mac (+) Rom's is under development. The good thing of all this is that the software emulator may be Public Domain! Ofcourse, it does not include the Mac Rom contents themselves. You will probably be requested to buy them and transfer them to disk. Needless to say that the software emulator alsu runs at 120% of the Macintosh. ------ I posted this for a friend of mine, who has no access to the Net. Any comments can be addressed to me directly. This guy (Paul Molenaar) does have a login on Bitnet (EARN), so he can be contacted there directly for further questions. He's there most evenings with the nickname 'Red'.
lbl@druhi.UUCP (LocklearLB) (12/17/86)
In article <867@ark.cs.vu.nl>, Patrick@ark.UUCP writes: > > Great News!!!! > In Europe people succeeded in writing a *software* Mac Emulator. Which > basically works the same as the hardware Magic Sac, but instead of needing > a set of Macintosh Roms in the cartridge port, it loads the Rom contents > into _memory_. > > Apart from this *everything* works the same. Mac Paint runs and so does all > of the other stuff that could run on the Mac Sac. > > I'm inclined to believe that David Small (the inventor of the Magic Sac) > just made a hardware version in order to boost his profits. Obviously, > this works just as fine. > > BTW: A Mac emulator that uses the newer Mac (+) Rom's is under development. > > The good thing of all this is that the software emulator may be Public > Domain! Ofcourse, it does not include the Mac Rom contents themselves. You > will probably be requested to buy them and transfer them to disk. > > Needless to say that the software emulator alsu runs at 120% of the Macintosh. > > ------ > > I posted this for a friend of mine, who has no access to the Net. Any > comments can be addressed to me directly. This guy (Paul Molenaar) > does have a login on Bitnet (EARN), so he can be contacted there directly > for further questions. He's there most evenings with the nickname 'Red'. David Small did NOT make a hardware version to boost his profits. He made it run in hardware because: 1) Distributing copies of the Apple ROM's on diskette will get you into SERIOUS problems with the law. 2) Most people don't have the means to buy ROM's and copy the contents onto diskette. This problem would severely limit the market for the Magic Sac. Using Dave's idea, all they have to do is buy the ROM's and plug them into the supplied cartridge. BTW: the Magic Sac is also a software emulator of the Mac. The only reason that the ROM's are needed is for the Macintosh system code. Barry Locklear ihnp4!drutx!druhi!lbl Usual Disclaimer: I am not in any way affiliated with Dave Small or Data Pacific.
pete@utcs.uucp (12/19/86)
In article <867@ark.cs.vu.nl> Patrick@cs.vu.nl (Patrick van Kleef) writes: > >Great News!!!! >In Europe people succeeded in writing a *software* Mac Emulator. Which >basically works the same as the hardware Magic Sac, but instead of needing >a set of Macintosh Roms in the cartridge port, it loads the Rom contents >into _memory_. > >Apart from this *everything* works the same. Mac Paint runs and so does all >of the other stuff that could run on the Mac Sac. > >I'm inclined to believe that David Small (the inventor of the Magic Sac) >just made a hardware version in order to boost his profits. Obviously, >this works just as fine. *MUCH* more likely (and less cynical) is that Dave did this to FORCE PEOPLE TO BUY REAL ROMS. A product such as this European thing (IF in fact it is on the up and up, and not a pirate of the magic sac) is nothing but an INVITATION to copy (copy as in STEAL) the code in the Mac Roms and put them on disk. According to Dave Small, the Magic Sac will not even work with EPROMS, never mind software in Ram. For the sake of the authors of this system, I hope it DOES remain in the public domain. I they tried to sell it Apples Lawyers would likely be on them like Ugly on an Ape. I personally aplaud Dave Small for forcing people to give Apple Programers their due (And I hope I speak for a majority on the Net!) > Thanks, Pete Santangeli pete@utcs psantangeli on BIX