silvert@dalcs.UUCP (02/17/87)
I can sympathize with those who were frustrated in trying to get Uniterm 1.6g, since Simon spent a lot of time sending me duplicate uuencoded versions which arrived in damaged form, before finally one of my BBS users got hold of a working version. However, when this morning I found TWO complete postings, I had to sympathize even more with Simon Poole's angry response. And it looks like these postings will delay the arrival of 1.7a, so we all lose. On top of the recent uemail fiasco (with all the duplicates that went out I think I received about 20 large installments), it is clear that we need to try to agree on policy to cut down on net traffic. Keep in mind that one of the prices we are paying is that a lot of net contributors are posting binaries without source code, presumably to cut down on traffic. I would personally rather see a lot of small programs however then a few really big ones. Granted, the multiplicity of languages is a problem, but I would really like to see some of the source code for Braner's programs and that sort of thing than massive posting of code suitable only for those who have a specific compiler and want to add their own touches. I suggest that we adopt a strict policy of NOT posting material written by someone else IF that person is on the net and has not given explicit permission (I asked Simon if he wanted me to handle N. American posting of Uniterm, and since he didn't, I didn't). Also, can we clean up the various versions of uuencode that are out there? I do all my uuencoding on a Unix system, and I recognize that my program needs improvement -- adding a check character at the end of each line is a desirable improvement, for example, and avoids problems associated with the loss of terminal blanks. If we identify the uuencodes that work best and distribute them, it would help. If we do find ourselves under pressure, perhaps a compromise might save the day -- an agreement to restrict this group to single-part listings, with a moderated group for multipart listings and large source postings. We might also get some feedback on what kinds of source code are appropriate. For example, I've posted some Modula-2 source code and gotten a number of replies, but I really have no idea of how many Modula-2 users there are out there. One possibility we should look into is setting up formal distribution networks, perhaps by smail. Several notices have already appeared about distribution centres. If Simon sent a couple of disks to N. American contacts who immediately started mailing out copies to "subscribers" we could probably clean up the Uniterm distribution problem quite efficiently, for example. -- Bill Silvert Marine Ecology Laboratory, Dartmouth, NS, Canada CDN or BITNET: silvert@cs.dal.cdn -- UUCP: ..!{seismo|utai}!dalcs!silvert ARPA: silvert%dalcs.uucp@seismo.CSS.GOV -- CSNET: silvert%cs.dal.cdn@ubc.csnet