john@renoir.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (03/12/87)
I'm looking at getting an Atari system for use a graphics terminal at
home. It looks like a good ``basic'' system is the 1000 (number?). I.e.,
1M memory, a monochrome monitor (on the principle that high resolution is
better than color). I have several questions about putting together some
sort of usable development environment for C on the machine.
I'm looking mostly for free or cheap software, although I realize that
I'll have to fork out bucks for the compiler.
- the most important, is there a good editor? Is there an emacs,
preferably something based on Stallman's emacs? I could even
survive with vi if necessary (but not the mouse/menus editors
I've seen running).
- a good compiler--what is your recommendation for a C compiler
which is relatively bug-free and has at least the basic libraries
for someone used to writing C under UNIX? Is there any hope of
a debugger?
- terminal programs--I need a decent terminal program to run the
editor (unless it talks directly to the operating system).
- modem support. Can you use the st as a terminal? If so, how
much would modem support be? I already have a 2400 baud modem
(and regular terminal).
- shell programs. Is there anything which comes even close to
a UNIX shell? Preferably c-shell, but even the Bourne shell
would be better than the window-y thing I've seen used.
- up/down-loading--how can you transfer files from a Vax over a
modem line? Is there a kermit or something?
- how easy is it to write code which accesses all the bits on the
screen without going through the window system? Can I just write
a program which scribbles on the frame buffer?
Please respond if you have ideas on any or all of this stuff. I don't
mind getting many responses; you probably have something different to say
than everyone else I'll hear from.
John Coker
john@renoir.Berkeley.EDUleavens@atari.UUCP (03/14/87)
in article <17799@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>, john@renoir.Berkeley.EDU (John Coker) says: > > I'm looking at getting an Atari system for use a graphics terminal at > home. It looks like a good ``basic'' system is the 1000 (number?). You mean the 1040 ST, 1 Meg memory, built in DSDD 3.5" drive. > - the most important, is there a good editor? Is there an emacs, > preferably something based on Stallman's emacs? I could even > survive with vi if necessary (but not the mouse/menus editors > I've seen running). There's a really nice version of MicroEMACS available, the version is up around 3.7 or 3.8. > - a good compiler--what is your recommendation for a C compiler > which is relatively bug-free and has at least the basic libraries > for someone used to writing C under UNIX? Is there any hope of > a debugger? I use the Alcyon Compiler from the Developer's kit, and like it. Other people like Mark Williams and Megamax. > - modem support. Can you use the st as a terminal? If so, how > much would modem support be? I already have a 2400 baud modem > (and regular terminal). There are several programs that emulate a VT-100, and the machine comes with a VT-52 emulator desk accessory free. > - shell programs. Is there anything which comes even close to > a UNIX shell? Preferably c-shell, but even the Bourne shell > would be better than the window-y thing I've seen used. Dave Beckemeyer's C-Shell is very good. > - up/down-loading--how can you transfer files from a Vax over a > modem line? Is there a kermit or something? There are several versions of kermit. > - how easy is it to write code which accesses all the bits on the > screen without going through the window system? Can I just write > a program which scribbles on the frame buffer? It's quite easy to get at the screen. --alex @ Atari BIX:alexl. GEnie: ALEXLEAVENS AtariCorp: 408-745-2006 "How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all."