[comp.sys.atari.st] Caution with S&S Wholesalers of Miami Beach

kdale@BBNCC-EUR.ARPA.UUCP (03/12/87)

I'm *really* angry right now, so please bear with any unprofessionalism you may
see here.

I  ordered  a  PC system from S & S Wholesalers, Inc. of Miami Beach, FL on Jan
28, 1987.  The brand is irrelevant, but what is happening is not.  The  invoice
is dated 28 Oct, 1986 for starters.  The quoted price for shipping and handling
was 3% for use of a credit card (fair enough) and 6% for shipping (I use an APO
address,  being  in  Germany  and  all...).   The actual amount charged came to
13.78%.  I would have expected the system to be shipped first  class  for  that
much money, but **NO**, it was shipped fourth class.  

I  was  told  that it shipped on Wednesday, 28 Jan, the same day that I ordered
it, but the postage indicateds that it was shipped Monday, 9 Feb.  I still have
not received the monitor.

Now  the good part: I ordered a brand new system.  I received a system that has
an ominous label that says, "Refurbished by the Manufacturer".  They sent me  a
g**damn  repaired  unit??   No  sign  of  a  shipping  invoice.  No sign of the
external disk drive that I also ordered.  

And to top it off, they sent me outdated system software!  The new version  has
been available for four or five months now, and they sent me this old sh*t!

Impression: I think these turkeys decided to move some unwanted merchandise and
decided that some military geek stuck in Europe would be a prime target.  Well,
I am neither military nor stuck anywhere, and I don't *think* I'm a geek.

Conclusion:  stay tuned for explanations.  I am not condemning them to hell for
all eternity....yet.  But I'd advise holding off any purchases/orders from them
until they have a chance to respond.  Not only will I call them as soon as they
open for business, but I'll also send this message to them and explain that the
eyes  of  the world (hopefully) are on them.  I will certainly post results, or
non-results, as the case may be.

Keith M. Dale
Defense Data Network Project Adminstrator - Europe
BBN Communications Corporation

*** Disclaimer: the opinions expressed herein are  strictly  my  own,  and  not
    those of my employer's or the Department of Defense's.  ***

rsm6306@ritcv.UUCP (03/14/87)

In article <8703121649.AA23788@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> kdale@BBNCC-EUR.ARPA (Keith Dale) writes:
>I'm *really* angry right now, so please bear with any unprofessionalism you may
>see here.
>
>I  ordered  a  PC system from S & S Wholesalers, Inc. of Miami Beach, FL on Jan


Here I thought I was the only one being shafted by these people.
I ordered $150 of ST software from them.  When I placed the order, they said thesoftware that I wanted was *IN STOCK*  I asked 2 different times to make sure
there was no confusion.  They said since the software I wanted was in stock,
it would ship the same day.  It has been *WEEKS* since I ordered the software
and I still have not received it.  Their customer service people give me
a song and dance about their computers being down and delaying the order.

I strongly urge people to think twice before lifting the phone to call these
people to place an order.  There are reputable outfits out there that will
give you good prices and good service.  So far I have not gotten either
from S&S.

Has anybody done a survey of people on this newsgroup to find out how
different mail order outfits perform?  I think it is time we did such a 
survey.  I will work up a form and send it out to the group next week,
compile the results and report to the group.

Randy Marks
rsm6306@ritcv.UUCP

df@nud.UUCP (Dale Farnsworth, NO7K) (03/16/87)

In article <8703121649.AA23788@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> kdale@BBNCC-EUR.ARPA (Keith Dale) writes:
>I  ordered  a  PC system from S & S Wholesalers, Inc. of Miami Beach, FL on Jan
>28, 1987.
> ...
>I  was  told  that it shipped on Wednesday, 28 Jan, the same day that I ordered
>it, but the postage indicateds that it was shipped Monday, 9 Feb.  I still have
>not received the monitor.

I have only dealt with S & S Wholesalers once, but I must say that I was
quite satisfied with their response.  I ordered a SC1224 color monitor,
paid by personal check, which they said they would hold for 2 weeks.
They shipped the monitor 14 days after they received my order and they
paid for all the postage.

I was very pleased.

-Dale
--
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engst@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Adam C. Engst) (03/19/87)

I realize that this may not necessarily be appropriate, but for all those
poor souls getting shafted by various companies (blacpatch, S&S) I would like
to recommend Lyco Marketing & Consultants (or something like that). Of course
I have no connection with them other than an extremely satisfied customer
on several occassions.  

adam

malice@wolf.UUCP (03/21/87)

> 

> I realize that this may not necessarily be appropriate, but for all those
> poor souls getting shafted by various companies (blacpatch, S&S) I would like
> to recommend Lyco Marketing & Consultants (or something like that). Of course
> I have no connection with them other than an extremely satisfied customer
> on several occassions.  

I just (tonight) got my 1040ST from Lyco. They are great. Nice discounts and
nice service. Recommended if you plan to go mail-order, and maybe if you
aren't. Their order number is 1-800-233-8760.

[message really sent by billw@wolf on another's account]