pett@CGL.UCSF.EDU.UUCP (03/20/87)
As a usenet site, we have been receiving a lot of duplicate info
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'wisdom.bitnet'. We receive "articles" that look like the one appended
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Thank you!
Eric Pettersen
UCSF Computer Graphics Lab
ucbvax!ucsfcgl!pett or pett@cgl.ucsf.edu
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Subject: Info-Atari16 Digest V87 #135
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Info-Atari16 Digest Thursday, March 19, 1987 Volume 87 : Issue 135
This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield
Today's Topics:
Ratfor (!)
68020 Box, laser printer, Eastern Pa. Expo
Re: News From Hannover Messe
Re: laser printer
NAG Poll No. 2
Re: B. Dalton bags the ST
Help! vro_cpyfm,vrt_cpyfm
problems with comp.binaries.atari.st
Re: where are the other groups?
Re: where are the other groups?
Line A Sprite Routines
Re: Magic Sac
Re: Adding another Hard Drive??
Re: News From Hannover Messe
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Date: 15 Mar 87 07:32:11 GMT
From: linus!gatech!mcnc!ravi@husc6.harvard.edu (Ravi Subrahmanyan)
Subject: Ratfor (!)
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
[]
Just in case someone's interested.. I have a version of Ratfor
for the ST; it's pretty complete, and works fine (except for I/O in
pipes). Any fortran users out there?? 8^)
-ravi
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Date: 16 Mar 87 16:20:09 GMT
From: appelbau@topaz.rutgers.edu (Marc L. Appelbaum)
Subject: 68020 Box, laser printer, Eastern Pa. Expo
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
Well, I went to the Eastern Pa. ATARI Expo and spoke to Mark Jensen,
Tech Support specialist for ATARI Corp. When I asked him about the
68020 box I couldn't get any answers. Also at his Question Mark
seminar, someone else asked a question about the box. Mark's only
response yes <smile>.
I understand that the box is official unannouced, so I'm not mad,
just a little disappointed.
Now for a suggestion.
Mark did say that the box would only use the ST's I/O ports. Well why
not put a few RS-232 ports on the box. This would allow you to hook
your 8-bit up to your ST as a terminal. It could also be used in a
University Microlab, for running a BBS and allowing console logins.
Another use would be in an office situtation. This way many people
can access the same files, share printers, etc. It seems that this is
VERY possible under System V UNIX.
At the Desktop Publishing seminar we saw output from ATARI's
laserprinter. The quality of the output was exaclty the same (if not
better) than that of the Apple Laserwriter. The Laserprinter can
print up to 300 X 300 DPI. In order to layout a full page at 300 X
300, you'll need about 4 megs. This is because the LaserPrinter has
no memory of it's own. It uses the ST to do all the work. When we
asked the ATARI rep. at the seminar (I forget his name), about memory
upgrades he said ATARI does CONDONE upgrades from 3rd party companies.
I saw a BLITTER in action!
Atari was running two demos of birds flying across the screen. One
was on a normal 1040, the other was using a 1040 with a blitter. The
one with the blitter was MUCH faster.
--
Marc L. Appelbaum "If life is a game of chess
Arpa:appelbau@topaz.rutgers.edu and you and I are pawns
Uucp:rutgers!topaz!appelbau what happens when we get to
GEnie: M.APPELBAUM the other side of the board?"
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Date: 16 Mar 87 16:06:10 GMT
From: trwrb!sansom@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Sansom)
Subject: Re: News From Hannover Messe
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
In article <4378@utah-cs.UUCP> shebs@utah-cs.UUCP (Stanley Shebs) writes:
>Is the blitter going to be invisible if you don't want to use it, so for
>instance Sublogic's Flight Simulator won't run 5 times faster (can you
>say "Cessna F-16"? :-) :-) )
Unless I'm mistaken, Bruce Artwick & Co. (SubLogic) wrote all of their own
graphics routines for the ST version of Flight Simulator II, therefore
there should be no "Cessna F-16" performance from a blittered ST.
-Rich
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Date: 16 Mar 87 16:12:20 GMT
From: trwrb!sansom@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Sansom)
Subject: Re: laser printer
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
In article <261@nikhefh.UUCP> t68@nikhefh.UUCP (Jos Vermaseren) writes:
>At Hannover I saw the Atari laser printer.
>It was announced as a 8 pages per minute printer.
>In a report from the computer show in Vegas I read
>something about 30 or more pages per minute...
Either you are mistaken (about the 30 ppm) or Atari is about to wrap up the
desktop publishing market! Seriously, I think 8 ppm is closer to the mark
since our site's Talaris can only print 24 ppm.
-Rich
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/// Richard E. Sansom TRW Electronics & Defense Sector \\\
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Date: 16 Mar 87 16:47:16 GMT
From: trwrb!sansom@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Sansom)
Subject: NAG Poll No. 2
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
Sorry, this took so long to post, but I've been a bit busy lately.
Here's the second NAG poll. I'll collect the responses and post the
results both to the net and (by mail) to Atari (I'll try and get this as
far up the Atari corporate ladder as I can - if any of you out there have
any "contacts" in Atari's HQ, let me know).
-Rich
p.s. - I've included an RFC regarding this group's name. If you have any
suggestions, please give them.
-- cut here, extract file nagpoll2 --
Net Atari Group (NAG) Poll No. 2 - 3/16/87
Directions: read each question, fill in the "___"s with your
answers. For those questions which require more descriptive
answers, insert as many lines as you need on the line immediately
following the question.
Name (optional):
Date received:
Date sent:
#0 New name suggestion for this group (optional): __________
#1 Do you presently own an Atari computer system? ___
#2 If you answered "yes" to question #1, give a brief description of your
system:
#3 Do you plan to purchase any Atari products this year? ___
#4 If you answered "yes" to question #3, give a list of the products you
plan to buy:
#5 If you answered "no" to question #3, list the reasons which prompted
you to come to this decision:
#6 Do you feel Atari is providing adequate support for existing ST owners? ___
#7 Give a brief explanation of your answer to #6 (optional):
#8 Do you feel Atari is moving in the right direction with its new products?
(e.g., the Mega ST, the Atari PC, the 68020 "UNIX" box, etc.): ___
#9 Give a brief explanation of your answer to #8 (optional):
#10 If you could say anything to Atari, what would it be? (optional):
-- cut here --
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Date: 16 Mar 87 19:38:16 GMT
From: pyramid!amdahl!drivax!holloway@hplabs.hp.com (Bruce Holloway)
Subject: Re: B. Dalton bags the ST
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
In article <122@wldrdg.UUCP> tony@wldrdg.UUCP (Tony Andrews) writes:
>The local B. Dalton bookstore here in Boulder has stopped carrying
>ST software.
Our local B. Dalton's, and Waldenbooks, never carried ST software, and very
little Amiga software, either.
Last year, our local "Toys 'R' Us" started carrying ST hard- and software,
but has never restocked their software selection. As each title sells out,
they use the space for more Commodore 64 programs. They're down to just two
programs - King's Quest II and Degas.
It's too bad - I bought software there before - they're a lot closer than
the nearest Atari dealer in Los Gatos.
- Bruce
--
Bruce Holloway - Relapsed Newsaholic
{seismo,hplabs,sun,ihnp4}!amdahl!drivax!holloway
Put the power of RANDOM NUMBERS to work FOR YOU!
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Mail-From: G.ABRAMS created at 16-Mar-87 17:08:59
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 87 09:30 EDT
From: <JANKOWSJ%UNION.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu>
Subject: Help! vro_cpyfm,vrt_cpyfm
To: info-atari-request@su-score.arpa
X-Original-To: info-atari-request@su-score.arpa, JANKOWSJ
ReSent-Date: Mon 16 Mar 87 17:08:59-PST
ReSent-From: Info-Atari Moderator <G.ABRAMS@Score.Stanford.EDU>
ReSent-To: info-atari16@Score.Stanford.EDU
Dear G.E.M. Hackers,
Is there any-hacker in this universe that can assist me in
finding information about working with the G.E.M. functions
vro_cpyfm(handle,copy_logic,xy_array,psource_mfdb,pdest_mfdb);
vrt_cpyfm(handle,writing_mode,xy_array,psource_mfdb,pdest,col);
These two functions are used primarily to copy memory from
screen device to ram-memory of visa-versa. However, I would
like to be able to copy from memory to memory or visa-versa.
Can this be accomplished with these functions or am I living in
a fantasy.
If there is some documentation on these functions that are
a little more in-depth than Digital's "GEM PROGRAMMERS GUIDE
VOL. II" of "PROGRAMMER'S GUIDE TO GEM" please drop me a few
bytes.
Sincerely,
C.R.T.
JANKOWSJ@UNION.BITNET
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Date: 16 Mar 87 17:59:46 GMT
From: imagen!turner@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (D'arc Angel)
Subject: problems with comp.binaries.atari.st
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
I have gotten a lot of mail form people asking where did
comp.binaries.atari.st go so i did some checking and it turns out
that the group was never created ( heaven knows what happened to the
postings). Anywho i am working with the net-powers-that-be to see if
this is a bug in news v2.11 or did i screw up. Please be patient and
we will try to sort this out as quickly as we can.
--
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C'est la vie, C'est la guerre, C'est la pomme de terre
Mail: Imagen Corp. 2650 San Tomas Expressway Santa Clara, CA 95052-8101
UUCP: ...{decvax,ucbvax}!decwrl!imagen!turner AT&T: (408) 986-9400
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Date: 16 Mar 87 17:48:27 GMT
From: imagen!turner@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (D'arc Angel)
Subject: Re: where are the other groups?
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
in article <853@water.UUCP>, ljdickey@water.UUCP says:
+---------------------------------------------------------
+
+ In article <2441@dalcs.UUCP>, silvert@dalcs.UUCP (Bill Silvert) writes:
++ When these groups get going, please post word here so that we all know.
+
+ Nothing has arrived here either. Has Turner disappeared?
+
+ --
+---------------------------------------------------------
The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated...
I posted SpaceWars V3.0 to comp.binaries.atari.st, if anyone
receives it could they please send me email
--
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C'est la vie, C'est la guerre, C'est la pomme de terre
Mail: Imagen Corp. 2650 San Tomas Expressway Santa Clara, CA 95052-8101
UUCP: ...{decvax,ucbvax}!decwrl!imagen!turner AT&T: (408) 986-9400
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Date: 16 Mar 87 13:10:34 GMT
From: imagen!turner@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (D'arc Angel)
Subject: Re: where are the other groups?
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
in article <2441@dalcs.UUCP>, silvert@dalcs.UUCP (Bill Silvert) says:
+---------------------------------------------------------
+
+ When these groups get going, please post word here so that we all know.
+ I just read 159 news items without a single program arriving, and the
+ new news groups don't exist here -- I'm worried that we may end up
+ missing a bunch of goodies. A status report would be welcome!
+---------------------------------------------------------
I just posted SpaceWars V3.0 to comp.binaries.atari.st, but being new
to this i'm not sure that everything worked properly. If anyone
receives the posting could they send me email.
thanks
--
---------------
C'est la vie, C'est la guerre, C'est la pomme de terre
Mail: Imagen Corp. 2650 San Tomas Expressway Santa Clara, CA 95052-8101
UUCP: ...{decvax,ucbvax}!decwrl!imagen!turner AT&T: (408) 986-9400
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 87 21:05:23 est
From: Eric Terrell <terrell@ohio-state.ARPA>
To: info-atari16@su-score.arpa
Subject: Line A Sprite Routines
I wonder if anyone could send me source code involving calls to the
draw sprite and undraw sprite line a routines?
I'm having trouble (big time) figuring them out from the Abacus book!
I would be delighted to look at sources in any language (C, Pascal,
Assembly, etc).
Thanks in advance,
Terrell (terrell@ohio-state)
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Date: 16 Mar 87 14:19:12 GMT
From: engst@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Re: Magic Sac
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
Could someone who has the Magic Sac please post a list of files that they
know work or do not work? I am very interested in getting the Sac, but I
need to know more about how compatible it is. If it isn't too much trouble,
could someone at least post the README files that come with the Sac (someone
promised to do this a while ago but never did)? Also, has anyone used the
Sac with a color monitor? Is it readable in color? Does anyone know of a
cheap source of ROMS (I heard a rumor about some place in Syracuse, New York
having them for $25 but I don't know any specifics)? I would be eternally
grateful for any information about the Sac as it works currently. Thanks .
Adam Engst
engst@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu
pv9y@cornell.bitnet
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Date: 17 Mar 87 00:37:55 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: Adding another Hard Drive??
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
>>> I dove into a Atari hard drive last night and started with my usual play
>>> tactics. It seems that the Adaptek controller will support 2 hard disk
>>> drives. The current software does not want to see the second drive.
>>> (No, I didn't really expect it to.) (:>) Is there a patch that I can do
>>> to the handler to enable the second drive? Neil?? Alex?? It would be neat
>>> to add a second drive and power supply and have more storage!
>>>
>> If you've got a production drive, I think there's a switch on the
>> Atari controller board that allows you to set what logical unit the
>> drive is. Just change that, and...
>
> Sorry, Alex --- that doesn't help. ->ooof!<- [I just kicked his shins:]
>
> The Adaptec controller will indeed support more than one drive.
> The current AHDI.PRG hard disk driver does not support more than
> one drive per controller. And naturally, Atari does not
> encourage or condone such modifications to the hardware....
>
Yep, I goofed. What I was trying to say is that you can certainly use
more than one SH204 on your system, and that you have to do a little bit
of switch flipping to do so.
Ow! My shin's still hurting from the _last_ time you kicked me...
<grin>
--alex @ Atari
BIX:alexl. GEnie: ALEXLEAVENS AtariCorp: 408-745-2006
"How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all."
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Date: 17 Mar 87 00:58:08 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: News From Hannover Messe
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
in article <4378@utah-cs.UUCP>, shebs@utah-cs.UUCP (Stanley Shebs) says:
>
> Is the blitter going to be invisible if you don't want to use it, so for
> instance Sublogic's Flight Simulator won't run 5 times faster (can you
> say "Cessna F-16"? :-) :-) )
Yes, there will be a an easy way to turn it off if the software that you're
running goes a little too fast with it on... <grin>
--alex @ Atari
BIX:alexl. GEnie: ALEXLEAVENS AtariCorp: 408-745-2006
"How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all."
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-------pett@socrates.ucsf.edu.UUCP (03/22/87)
Sorry! As a USENET user I didn't realize that INFO-ATARI16 is not filtered by a human and that mailing a complaint to it will automatically post it to the net. I apologize to netland for having that bogus digest reposted. So, how does one tell INFO-ATARI16 about this *!$%$@ problem? Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Lab ucbvax!ucsfcgl!pett or pett@cgl.ucsf.edu