[comp.sys.atari.st] IBM emulator

braner@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (braner) (12/08/86)

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In case anybody who really knows might answer:

	Will the IBM emulator work with the 3.5" disk, and be available
	WITHOUT the 5" drive? (Since the IBM world is about to shift to
	3.5", why get a 5" drive?!?)

	Will it have an 8087 or a socket for it?  (If it doesn't, it's
	absolutely of no use for me!)

	How much memory will it have?  Will that be easily upgradeable?

	Will it use an 8088, 8086, 80186, 80286, or what?

Hopefully these questions (as opposed to "when and how much") are
answerable...

- Moshe Braner

neil@atari.UUCP (12/10/86)

In article <1761@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu>, braner@batcomputer.tn.cornell
.edu (braner) writes:

> 	Will the IBM emulator work with the 3.5" disk, and be available
> 	WITHOUT the 5" drive? (Since the IBM world is about to shift to
> 	3.5", why get a 5" drive?!?)

Yes, it will support the standard ST 3.5" drive.

> 	Will it have an 8087 or a socket for it?  (If it doesn't, it's
> 	absolutely of no use for me!)

Yes.

> 	How much memory will it have?  Will that be easily upgradeable?

Not yet finalized.  I am betting on 512K but don't hold me to this.

> 	Will it use an 8088, 8086, 80186, 80286, or what?

An 8088 or compatible chip.

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engst@batcomputer.UUCP (06/17/87)

Does anyone have any concrete news about the IBM emulator that was discussed
recently.  I would love to buy one for $90 to run dbase and WordPerfect
alone, at least until WordPerfect comes out for the ST with GEM and all.  So
what's the verdict, is it real, or is it Blackpatch?  Please send me any
information you don't feel like posting to the net and I'll summarize if
there is any.  Thanks,
                                    Adam Engst

engst@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu
pv9y@cornella.bitnet

rob@hhb.UUCP (Robert R Stegmann) (07/02/87)

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Hi all,

I just read in the August issue of Compute! magazine about an IBM PC
emulator (in software) for the ST.  It is called "pc-ditto" from
Avant-Garde Systems, 381 Pablo Point Dr., Jacksonville, FL 32225.
(The brief article is on page 118, in the News & Products column.)

The article says the program costs $89.95, isn't copy protected, supports
3.5"/80-track or 5.25"/40-track formats, monochrome or color, and runs (quote)
"virtually all of the major IBM programs, such as Lotus 1-2-3, Multiplan,
Symphony, Flight Simulator, Dollars&Sense, Sidekick, DAC Easy Accounting,
Turbo Pascal, and many others."

Can anybody out there who has any experience with this product or company
comment?  Does this emulator run at speed, or is it slow?
Is it real or vapor-ware?

It sounds interesting enough to buy, but life can be full of little
disappointments, can't it?

I called Florida information and got a phone number for Avant-Garde,
which turned out to connect me with some company that refuels Navy jets!
I explained to the man who answered the phone that I was trying to reach
a software company to ask about their product, but instead of simply
telling me he didn't know what I was talking about, he gave me another
number!  I tried THAT number several times, but it was always busy,
so I haven't been able to contact Avant-Garde.
I suspect they may be employees of the refilling company who are
moonlighting.

P.S. What about the "MS.EM" package from Paradox?
I heard it was poorly done.  Does anybody know if it has been improved?

[Please note that I am in no way affiliated with any of the above-mentioned
organizations, neither do I endorse any of the above-mentioned products.]

rob

Robert Stegmann
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I in no way represent my employer in this matter.

wheels@mks.UUCP (07/09/87)

In article <678@hhb.UUCP>, rob@hhb.UUCP (Robert R Stegmann) writes:
> I just read in the August issue of Compute! magazine about an IBM PC
> emulator (in software) for the ST.  It is called "pc-ditto".
> Can anybody out there who has any experience with this product or company
> comment?  Does this emulator run at speed, or is it slow?
> Is it real or vapor-ware?

I haven't used it, although I briefly saw it running at the local dealer.
There is much discussion about it on CompuServe, with the concensus being
that it does indeed run almost everything. Its speed depends on the type
of program being run, but seems to range from 50% to 80% of a plain PC.
Some programs suffer from slowness (interpreted BASIC, action games, etc.),
but users report running the usual applications, including communications
programs.

There was some discussion that the author was going to halt production
after only one month, due to large-scale pirating, but the latest posting
says that he has decided to continue as long as sales remain good.

Hey, I don't know anywhere else to get an IBM PC for under $100! Now
you can buy an Atari ST and have an ST, a MAC, and an IBM!  :-)
-- 
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Gerry Wheeler                  {seismo,decvax,ihnp4}!watmath!mks!wheels
Mortice Kern Systems Inc.

ljdickey@water.UUCP (07/10/87)

In article <678@hhb.UUCP> rob@hhb.UUCP (Robert R Stegmann) writes:
> ...
>I just read in the August issue of Compute! magazine about an IBM PC
>emulator (in software) for the ST.  It is called "pc-ditto" from
>Avant-Garde Systems, 381 Pablo Point Dr., Jacksonville, FL 32225.
> ...
>I called Florida information and got a phone number for Avant-Garde,
>which turned out to connect me with some company that refuels Navy jets!
> ...
>                                                    he gave me another
>number!  I tried THAT number several times, but it was always busy,
>so I haven't been able to contact Avant-Garde.

I also tried to find Avant-Garde Systems in Jacksonville, but there is
nothing listed with this name on Pable Point Drive.  Something about
address "381 Pablo Point Drive" makes me think of a residential area.
I suspect that the person who wrote PC-DITTO is trying to start a
business out of his home, picked the name "avant-garde", thinking it
was pretty far ahead :-) but has no business phone yet.

If someone in the Jacksonville area has a reverse phone book (such
as a City Directory), they could look it up.

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