[comp.sys.atari.st] What's the latest version of the Sac?

sansom@trwrb.UUCP (Richard Sansom) (07/07/87)

About 2 weeks ago I ordered the Magic Sac from Computer Games + in Orange,
CA.  The fellow who took my order assured me that he had the latest version
of the Sac, and that his price ($99!)  included the Mac 64K ROMs!  Needless
to say, I placed my order and waited for the package to arrive the next day
via UPS (I live in Torrance - about an hour away from Orange).  Well, to
make a long story short, the Sac didn't arrive until yesterday (at least a
week late), it didn't have the Mac ROMs, and it appears to be version 2.0!
If I'm not mistaken, the latest version should be somewhere around 4.2x by
now.

Can anyone out there tell me what the latest version should be?  Also, does
anyone know of a place in the L.A.  area where I can get some Mac ROMs?

Thanks a bundle in advance.

-Rich
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dragon@oliveb.UUCP (Give me a quarter or I'll touch you) (07/08/87)

in article <2045@trwrb.UUCP>, sansom@trwrb.UUCP (Richard Sansom) says:
 
> Can anyone out there tell me what the latest version should be?  Also, does
> anyone know of a place in the L.A.  area where I can get some Mac ROMs?
 
> Thanks a bundle in advance.
 
> -Rich

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The latest version that I have seen (updates are posted regularly on GEnie)
is 4.35.  To use it one needs the 4.2 distribution disk from Data Pacific,
as only the driver is replaced in the last few updates.

For ROMs outside of L.A., San Jose Computer and B & C Computervisions both
carry the Mac ROMs.  A bit expensive, but if you GOTTA have them...


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toml@xrxns.UUCP (07/09/87)

In article <2045@trwrb.UUCP>, sansom@trwrb.UUCP (Richard Sansom) writes:
> About 2 weeks ago I ordered the Magic Sac from Computer Games + in Orange,
> CA.  
> 
> Can anyone out there tell me what the latest version should be?  Also, does
> anyone know of a place in the L.A.  area where I can get some Mac ROMs?
> 
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funny, i just had a nearly similar experience with Full Spectrum Computers
in Dumfries, VA. (though to be fair the part about promising roms and not
including them doesn't apply).

i can't help you with your search for roms in the LA area, though as indicated
by the mail-order ads in the magazines i read they shouldn't be hard
to acquire.  going price is $40;  i've seen them for as low as $30, but
not lately.

as for current version -- allow me to refer you to the july/august '87
issue of "current notes" magazine, pg 38.  the column, which i highly
recommend, is jeff greenblatt's "adventures in the magic sacdom".
i admit it's not the greatest title, but it is a very informative column
which he's been writing since around last march or so.  it's also the
only monthly column i've seen anyone writing on the magic sac, in any
publication.

anyway, according to his column, the latest version is 4.34, which he says
was uploaded to compuserve and genie.  you can save yourself the 10 dollar
software upgrade fee data pacific charges by downloading it yourself.  i
don't know if the mac download disk has changed, or is available on these
services, since i'm not a user of either.

a few other points of interest, sort of free-association style, and gleaned
from jeff's column and my conversations with the guys at data pacific:

the disk translator is awaiting fcc approval.  it supposedly will be ready
to ship within a period of time measured in weeks, or even days, rather
than months.  the price guess at by greenblatt is between $100 and $200,
though i believe this does not include a drive.  quote:  "The 
preliminary info on the box is that it will be connected to the midi ports
and the disk drive port of the last drive in the system.  it will work even
if you only have a 1040 STf without an external drive.  It will have its own
Z80 processor to handle I/O and a separate power supply, and does not have
to be disconnected when not in use...  It will also have the ability to
differentiate between Magic and Mac formatted disks automatically."
taken without permission from the above-cited magazine article.

jeff says he plans to have it, and a review ready, for the september issue
of current notes.

other interesting stuff:  after i found myself having problems with my
strangely-acting magic sac, i contacted data pacific.  turns out my 
software had been hacked by some perverse sob to display a recent version
number (4.0) but was, in fact, something from the 3.x vintage.  wanting
to get off on the right foot, i order the sw upgrade ($10).  however,
(this is the interesting part) the guy i spoke with on the phone said that
future releases of the sw may/will not support the magic sac, rather will
require the magic sac plus (the one with the clock, which goes for an extra
$30 or so).  i admit i am a bit vague on this, and didn't press him for
details.  anyway, i also went for their hardware upgrade:  for another
$25 they swap your sac for a sac plus, including the transfer cable (which
goes for $35 alone!).  if anyone has more info on this support issue i
would be curious to hear more.

one more comment about current notes magazine:  thru their PD disk service
(about which an article was posted here just a few days ago) you can get
a whole slew of magic-format disks containing mac utilities, fonts, games,
the finder, etc.  $4 per disk, plus $1 per 6 disks postage.  this is a 
public service announcement, friends.  proceeds from the sale of those
disks support novatari, the northern virginia atari user's group, and other
d.c. area atari groups.

there hasn't been much discussion of the magic sac here;  personally
i'd like to hear more, and plan to be contributing more as soon as i
get my upgrade back.

tom love
xerox edds
leesburg, va 22075
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sansom@trwrb.UUCP (Richard Sansom) (07/10/87)

>i can't help you with your search for roms in the LA area,,,

I found a set at [The] Logical Choice computer store in North Hollywood.
The price was $50 (higher than mail-order, but I was in a hurry).

>there hasn't been much discussion of the magic sac here;  personally
>i'd like to hear more, and plan to be contributing more as soon as i
>get my upgrade back.

Thanks for the info.

-Rich
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