schuster@dasys1.UUCP (Michael Schuster) (07/18/87)
Introduction ------------ We would like to introduce ourselves: we are Avant-Garde Systems, manufacturer of pc-ditto for the Atari ST. The company is small, comprised of just two of us -- Ginny and Bill Teal. First and most importantly, we wish to thank everyone who has supported us so far on just blind faith: dealers as well as consumers. In particular, we wish to say a special thanks to those who have carried the torch on our behalf until we could get here. Piracy -- We know that some rumors abound regarding the piracy of pcditto and the effect on Avant-Garde. We would like to go on record and eliminate any pesky rumors you've heard. A couple of weeks ago, we began to receive calls from dealers regarding piracy of our product. Not one or two, but in our phone log, now well over a hundred; fairly well scattered across the country. This might not seem unusual in this electronic age, but we were astounded by the sheer numbers of individuals who began contacting dealers and ourselves for support and disk drives. When we originally decided to enter the retail marketplace, we took into consideration that some piracy would occur. This, like similar events in other industries, goes with the territory. But, it still hurt our feelings, after we tried to give the market a good product, at a good price, a free update, and to offer to listen to the market so as to improve the product and service in the future. So, are we going out of business or do we plan to roll over? No. Thank goodness for those of you who supported us. You have shown us that the entire Atari market is not corrupt. Only, that it sometimes seems so. If you continue your support, and your friends continue, then we will work even harder to earn your respect, to provide you the best support we can and keep all the promises we've made. Maybe, if by providing great support, more updates, and maintaining good prices, most people who want the product will ultimately want the real thing. Support policy -- Please send in your registration cards. Many manufacturers tell us that only 20 to 30 percent of these cards are ever returned. We are providing a free update. This will be the only way we will know where and to whom to send an update. Also, if you call us, we can not help you if your card is not on file. Lastly, we are making the next update free, as a way to entice you to tell us what you think. The next update will contain enhancements, rather than bug fixes. But, we want your input. We do want the product to be useful to you. So, call, write, or send a message to us here. About once a week we will visit this system, to reply to your questions. Usually, on Sunday. Since we view this medium as a technical support system, you may find that from time to time you ask us questions which we may not respond to. We will not give our opinion, speculate about the future, nor enter into debates of a non-technical nature publicly. Please send us E-mail, if you wish to covering other ancillary topics. Because this system costs money, we want to save those who come here time and aggravation, instead of cover a lot of irrevelant ifs, maybes, and should haves. It appears that this professional attitude is already in place here...we would just like to continue it. Thanks. Finally, many of you may find it hard obtaining pc-ditto at your local dealer. We are working on this. We have one phone line. We are installing others. Also, we did not expect the overwhelming rush to buy this product. We had anticipated a slow summer in which to build up our credibility and advertise to dealers. Instead, you surprised us. Have patience. We won't forget you. By the way, our address is: Avant-Garde Systems 381 Pablo Point Drive Jacksonville, Florida 32225 (904) 221-2904 a dealer order number is coming shortly Next section is Design of pc-ditto Design of pc-ditto ------------------ 1. The Atari monochrome monitor (which we refer to henceforth as the Black and white or B/W) is not supported in production release version 2.0. Please do not buy the system if you have only the B/W monitor; pc-ditto will not work. There has been some confusion over whether the documentation or the outside packaging is correct. The "requirements" on the outside back of the packaging are correct. The B/W monitor support will be included in the first update. We make no apologies for our initial decision. Unfortunately, this decision excludes about 20 percent of the U.S. market (according to Richard Frick and Sig Hartman at Atari). Quite simply, we did not have sufficient time and resources to implement and test the monitor. Do we want to exclude this market? No. We are probably losing money right now. But, any manufacturer has to weigh opportunity costs of decisions. Our cost was to not support B/W monitor, or delay announcement of the product by 3 to 6 months. We knew the window of opportunity for launching this product was this summer for both U.S. and European sales. Any later would most likely mean missing targets for advertising and promotions during the "back-to-schoool" and "Holiday season" buying periods. Approximately 40 percent of the microcomputer sales are made during these periods. That is why we officially state the B/W monitor support will be in the first update. Furthermore, we have been told by a major magazine reviewer regarding our product: we made the wisest decision. Had we chosen to initially support the B/W monitor, most people would have said "Ahhhh. Color is impossible." Instead, psychologically, implementing color makes people think B/W is simple. (Well, we wouldn't go quite as far as to say, simple. Just that it is about the same). In any case, there is one other rule we have about products. They are tested. Should we prematurely release an untested product into the market, you would have to wait just about as long to get an update to fix it, should it be a disaster. We prefer your wrath now, and will work harder to recover your faith, when we release a solidly tested product. In the first instance, we destroy something we can never quite recover: your confidence in us and our product. 2. 80-track 5.25" drives -- not currently supported to read 40-track media (even if just to transfer data). We are working on a simple, utility which will get the job done under DOS. This will be out shortly. If enough need is voiced for this, we can always make a "hardware" switch, later. 3. Programs on our certified list -- my wife and I have limited financial resources. We tried to select DOS applications which have widespread appeal. Our most objective scorecard of the most popular programs is the list of top 40 IBM programs sold by the distributors: Softsel, Ingram, and Micro D. We will continue to update this list about monthly; here, and with a list to dealers. If your favorite program is not here, that does not mean it will not work. But, like many compatibles, we are not perfect. (That's why we sell through dealers.. so you can try before you buy). As we fix bugs and make other improvements, many non-working programs may start running. And, we appreciate all the calls you make regarding which do run. Please understand, our official list is only updated when we have tested the product ourselves. We make this policy because if you call with a problem, we can duplicate it (in most cases). For you to rely on someone elses word is less than professional for us, since we have to stand behind our product. 4. We never realized there would be such a debate over the poor little mouse. It certainly makes sense that if a mouse is attached, and free, that a product support it. Well, when we surveyed the market to determine what dealers and consumers wanted, we we told "IBM PC XT compatibility." So, there is no mouse on a stock PC XT. Two, most of the programs on the market directly do not support any mouse at all. What you will find is when you purchase a mouse, it will include two kinds of software: a mouse driver -- which knows how to talk to the mouse hardware; and applications interface software -- which is usually customed designed for the most popular applications, such as Lotus 1-2-3, and includes the pull-down menus, and the like. We intend to provide the driver. And, a generic mouse which generates cursor keystrokes, with maybe the right button to generate a user definable key (say, carrige return). Now, either will be selectable from our menu. At this time, unless you already own IBM mouse interface software, from Microsoft, Logitech, Maynard, etc, then you may end up using Generic mouse. The cost of developing interface software is very large. Any one looking for a low cost market to develop for, here you are. Of course, there are some public domain mice programs, such as PMM (poor mans mouse), available. We will keep you posted as we go. 5. There is no support for the European keyboards and timers yet. That version will be released to European distributors this summer. 6. The new blitter may help some screen updates, but we don't know. Little information about them, and the machines they will be supported on, is currently available. 7. Megas with 2 and 4 Meg memories, as well as upgraded 1.5 to 4 Meg STs will be supported by pc-ditto. 8. Color text support -- One IBM CGA mode, 80 column text, permits 16 color backgrounds and 8 color characters. The Atari ST only supports 4 colors in 80 column mode. We DO allow you to choose which 4 colors. Unfortunately, this is one limitation placed on us by hardware design. However, we have not found this to be very limiting. Try it yourself, before discounting the ST. Also, the other CGA modes are supported fully. Therefore, there is no loss of graphic color or resolution capability. The next section is current BUGS Current BUGS ------------ Current bugs we are working on are: 1. PC-DFMT doesn't always like to format a blank disk without error. 2. Hard disks partitioned sometimes indicate all logical drives assigned to partition 0. This especially true of separate external drive/controller combinations. 3. Documentation: a. We refer to TOS system disks in the manual. We mean GEMDOS format disks. b. We refer to the Atari monichrome monitor in the manual. At the last minute, we left this in so we would not have to reprint the manual for an update. We do state on the outside package, however, that color monitor is currently required. c. There are minor typos in the Problem/solution section in the README.1st file. 4. Self-booting disks -- These are disks which require no operating system to run. Generally, they are started using the CTRL-ALT-DEL key combination of rebooting pc-ditto. We perform a special check of the boot sector we start a disk with to ensure novice users have not left the GEMDOS disk in the A: drive accidently. Unfortunately, as these things go, we look for a special IBM signature. To correct this, we will look for GEMDOS in the future. Please do not patch the system. You WILL cause irregularities in system operation, especially where disk writes occur. The next section is Next Update Information Next Update Information ----------------------- 1. The next update to current owners of version 2.0 is FREE. Contrary to some nasty rumors that suggested otherwise. 2. The next update will be this Fall. Exactly when we do not know. As a policy, we announce products when they can be obtained right then. This is to prevent vaporware. For some of you, this may not seem soon enough. We are sorry. But, the software development road is littered with many dead bodies of consumers who relied on some vaporware date. Until someone can make an exact science out the viscous art of software development, we are stuck with the frailties of the inestimatable. Therefore, we will not lie. 3. Please, please, send those registration cards to us. Again, we do not know who you are without them. Consequently, we will not send you your update...which you deserve and have already paid for. 4. For dealers, we currently investigating how to do updates to help you get return customer traffic. Because of the piracy problem, and the fact that our product is not copy-protected, this is a very sticky situation. No matter what is resolved, you will be notified of updates, and your inventory replaced. 5. The reason for the FREE part of the update is two-fold. First, we don't believe in you paying us for bugs. If we did, we would have designed bugs into the system, marketed several add-on modules to fix different bugs, and charged a lower price for the main product. We would like to treat you the way we want to be treated ourselves. Second, we want to encourage you to let us know what enhancements will add value to your product. We are a consumer-oriented company. We do not invent technologies and foist them onto the public. Instead, we know that the way to continue sales is to improve the product and service to meet your needs. Sales only occur when needs are met. So,.....what do you need? Don't be afraid to be absurd (though, don't just make things up either). We will review your needs. Implement those needs that we can. If we cannot, we will also tell you, and why. We are always looking for ways to improve our product. We're listening. 6. Topping the current list of needs are: B/W monitor support (selected for the next release) Mouse support -- Microsoft Logitech Maynard Midi hardware support Time/date carry over from the Atari GEM time/date Next section is specific questions Specific questions ------------------ 1. Which single-sided 3.5" disk format to boot DOS from? Our utility, pc-dfmt, will not let you create a single-sided 80-track bootable DOS diskette, because the DOS you may be using could be lower than version 3.2. Thus, for DOS versions below 3.2, you may only create a 40- track single-sided bootable DOS diskette. You may, however, create 80- track data diskettes (containing no bootable DOS) for use under DOS versions below 3.2. See our user manual and README.1ST file for details. For DOS version 3.2, there is a simpler way to format high-capacity diskettes. You may also create bootable (that's right Bootable) 80-track single-sided DOS diskettes. This works for IBM and COMPAQ DOS versions. (For all other DOS makers, we haven't tested this). Create a Config.sys file containing the line: DRIVPARM=/D:x /T:80 /S:9 /H:1 (replace x with a 0 or 1 depending on which physical drive is 3.5" 0 is a: 1 is b: ) Now, using the DOS FORMAT command, you can create the SS 80-track disk, optionally bootable with DOS. 2. Can't Avant-Garde find a way to override the DOS drives to reduce the confusion regarding device drivers with various letter assignments. Unfortunately, our job is to act like hardware. Once we begin to take over the functions of the DOS, we lose the compatibility and would probably introduce complexities in other areas. However, if you think you know the answer, let us know. Thanks. 3. Can't Avant-Garde make the creation of the CONFIG.SYS and the formatting more automatic, say by using batch files? Maybe. We'll look into it. Everyone's hardware is so different, making a general purpose utility to accomplish this may still be quite a task. Any DOS programmers out there up to the challenge? (How about a DOS shell?) This is perhaps why many of you, inexperienced with DOS, may find that the GEM environment is so much easier to use. The command line approach to running a microcomputer is difficult and often ambiguous. Add to that the evolution of new hardware, even as simple as 3.5" drives, and some systems seem to be very poorly designed to handle it, without extreme contortions on the part of the operator. Anyway, we're looking into some sort of simplification. 4. Isn't there some way to improve the creation of 3.5" 720K disks? This is a problem inherent in the design of DOS. We will try to find the simplest and best way to create them. Let us hear your success tips. Maybe we can come up with the all around best "cookbook" rules to handle DOS formats. -- l\ /l' _ Mike Schuster {allegra,philabs,cmcl2}!phri!dasys1!schuster l \/ lll/(_ Big Electric Cat {bellcore,cmcl2}!cucard!dasys1!schuster l lll\(_ New York, NY USA