[comp.sys.atari.st] new user asking for help.......?

ins_ajcn@jhunix.UUCP (Julio Cesar Navas) (11/05/87)

     Hey folks!  I'm very much new to all of this, which is why I decided
to post this in the hopes that someone out there would be able to help me.

     Basically my story is this:  I'm a freshman at Johns Hopkins University.
I'm coming to you via their computing facilities i.e.- JHUNIX.  Using their
facilities (I was able to get a student account), I have been to read this
news network for the past month or so.  A few things have me confused.

1. UUDECODE - I take it from my perusals of the network that UUDECODE is way 
different from ARC - but how different?  How would I get UUDECODE? 
Also, when UUDECODE (or is it UUENCODE) encodes a piece of software, does it 
save it as an ascii text?  I ask this because I have ST-TALK for my ST with
which I can "capture"  stuff from the screen(s).  It then saves the 'stuff' as
ascii text in a file.  If I capture a program from Comp.sources.atari.st this
way and then use UUDECODE on it will it work?  ST-TALK has XMODEM transfer, but
JHUNIX uses KERMIT.  So I'm stuck with a problem there.  

2. UNITERM - I've seen this mentioned a few times.  From what I see it seems to be pretty good.  Does it have  KERMIT?  How would I get it and where?

3. GULAM and MINIX - Are these UNIX type shells?  Are they any good?  Are 
they multitasking?  Are they still available and where?

4.  Other PD programs have caught my eye like Prolog, printer spoolers, and 
Spectrum. Can these programs be sent by mail?  I.E.  If one of you have these
programs could you send them to me?  Can anyone suggest BBS's that I can
try?  A friend suggested the ATARI BBS and gave me their phone number.  Are 
ther others I could try?

Please mail me any reponses.

I suppose my mailing address would be:

ins_ajcn@jhunix.UUCP

but I'm not sure (like I said I'm new at this).  If I'm wrong, maybe you can us
the header to figure out my real address.


                    thanks in advance,

                            Julio C. Navas
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ljdickey@water.UUCP (11/10/87)

In article <5417@jhunix.UUCP> ins_ajcn@jhunix.UUCP (Julio Cesar Navas) writes:
>
>     Hey folks!  I'm very much new to all of this  ...

> 1. UUDECODE - I take it from my perusals of the network that UUDECODE is way 
> different from ARC - but how different?  

ARC is several things at once... It can combine several files into
one file, gives you a check sum, and, unless you force otherwise, will
compress them according one or another data compression method.

UUENCODE, is a program that takes as input any file (such as a ".TOS"
file or an ARC file, for instance) and produces another that contains
only printable characters.  UUDECODE is the inverse of UUENCODE.

If I understand correctly, the use of XMODEM requires use of all 256 8-bit
characters to do a transfer.  This may be OK if you are calling from your
computer to another via one direct phone link, as well as
in some other circumstances.
However, some networks, for their own purposes,
respond to control characters, and for that reason, folks have
settled on schemes that move only printable characters.  (Hence UUen-
and UUde-code.)  Even this has caused some problems because *some* 
machines that come in BLUE boxes and use EBCDIC codes are a bit out of
sync with these that use ASCII codes.


> 2. UNITERM - I've seen this mentioned a few times. 
> From what I see it seems to be pretty good.  Does it have  KERMIT?  

Yes it is great, and yes, it has KERMIT.

All our mainframes here run KERMIT, even those that come in BLUE boxes.

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