menton%v5130b.DECnet@acoustics.nrl.MIL ("V5130B::MENTON") (11/03/87)
The 26 Oct. 87 issue of "digital review" magazine claims that Sun MicroSystems' "NeWS" windowing system exists for the Atari 520ST. Can anyone verify this information? I saw a discussion of this topic on the net not too long ago, but I wasn't paying attention; now, I'm interested. If it exists, can it be purchased or is it public domain? My vague recollection is that someone at Sun had indeed put NeWS on the ST, but with no intentions of making it available to the world. Bob Menton ARPAnet:MENTON@NRL-ACOUSTICS.ARPA ------
jwl@mas1.UUCP (James W. Livingston) (11/16/87)
In article <8711031416.AA14648@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> "V5130B::MENTON" <menton%v5130b.decnet@acoustics.nrl.mil> writes: > > The 26 Oct. 87 issue of "digital review" magazine claims that Sun >MicroSystems' "NeWS" windowing system exists for the Atari 520ST. Can anyone >verify this information? I saw a discussion of this topic on the net not too >long ago, but I wasn't paying attention; now, I'm interested. If it exists, >can it be purchased or is it public domain? My vague recollection is that >someone at Sun had indeed put NeWS on the ST, but with no intentions of making >it available to the world. > > Bob Menton > ARPAnet:MENTON@NRL-ACOUSTICS.ARPA > >------ I'd like to add to the brief information in the sidebar of the article you cite. The information that a NeWS server exists for the 520 ST comes from two sources: first, James Gosling said it was done as an excercise in a talk he gave on NeWS at the 1986 Fall DECUS symposium in San Francisco. Second, the same assertion appeared in the transparencies used in a seminar given by Sun Microsystems on NeWS. In neither case was there the suggestion that the implementation was for sale, nor available via some public domain channel; my guess is that your "vague recollection" is correct, and it's not, but the best way to find out is to contact Sun directly. Jim -- James W. Livingston, Jr. Measurex Automation Systems ..!codas!mas1!jwl 10411 Bubb Road ..!pyramid!voder!mas1!jwl Cupertino, CA 95014-4150 (408) 973-1800 x766 TWX:910-338-0242
cmcmanis%pepper@Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) (11/17/87)
NeWS was ported to the ST, by a person here at Sun. It was based on some beta code (which is now mostly different), and it was a server only. Meaning that you could talk to a Sun via SLIP and have suntools run on the ST. This made the ST a nice terminal for the Sun. It is *NOT* a replacement for GEM and it is *NOT* being marketed or sold. If you are interested in porting NeWS you can buy a source license and do so. $25,000 commercial, much less for Universities, although if you want to redistribute the port you need to get the commercial license. --Chuck McManis uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: cmcmanis ARPAnet: cmcmanis@sun.com These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you.