[comp.sys.atari.st] Cyber Paint

870646c@aucs.UUCP (barry comer) (11/30/87)

Keywords:CAD 3D 2.02


We I just picked up Cyber Paint from Antic, I must say that the boys have outdone themselves again. I have almost all of the members of the Cyber Family. If
you do have CAD 3D 2.0 or 2.02, you should pick up Cyber Paint. Also I have
picked up Cyber Control, and again what a program. If you are interested in
doing graphics on the ST you should not be without these programs. Also I
have finally receive my upgrades to Cybermate and CAD 3D 2.0, and Flash.
The upgrades were only the normal fee of $5.00 to cover shipping, I take
my hate off to Antic for there first rate customer support.
later
Barry
 P.S. Are there any other "Cyber Punks" out there?

jafischer@tiger.waterloo.edu (Jonathan A. Fischer) (12/01/87)

In article <604@aucs.UUCP> 870646c@aucs.UUCP (barry comer) writes:
>... CAD 3D 2.0 or 2.02...
	Precisely what has changed in version 2.02?

> P.S. Are there any other "Cyber Punks" out there?

	Yea brother, I too am a true believer.  Great Scott, what a system.

	Incidentally, those of you with upgraded 520's have a marked
advantage, in that you can hook into your VCR's and create some pretty
impressive videos.  (I say upgraded because the program needs a meg).
In fact, (here's a novel use) I used CAD 3-D 2.0 to create
a presentation which I, uh, presented to a baker's dozen of top-level managers
at NCR, at the end of my last co-op work term.  Felt a bit like "show and tell"
at first, but it went over pretty well.  All co-ops are required to go through
this (incredibly stressful) ordeal at NCR, and it helped to have such a
'crutch.'  This was, in fact, the purpose for which I bought CAD 3-D, and the
only way I could justify it to my wife!

	The new CYBER CONTROL program (which I haven't got, yet) adds the
ability to use B-splines to twist your objects (and the camera's path) in
amazing ways.  The demo I've seen makes me WANT this program.

	Add CYBER PAINT, and you've got one incredibly powerful (and expensive,
especially if you add the stereoscopic glasses) desktop video system. The only
problem is that it's practically a full-time job to create anything truly
interesting and of any length.  Ask me, I know!  The 2 or 3 minutes I created
for my presentation took, oh, maybe 30 to 50 hours (but then, I'm a nit-picking
tweaker, and I needn't have taken quite so long), counting the time spent
creating the objects, such as a true-to-scale 7770 cheque processing machine.

	Finally, there are two things which, in my opinion, would add
immeasurably to the system's overall appeal:
	A) a 68881 co-processor (someone was just asking about this).  CAD
	takes two to three ice ages to create complex scenes.  If a co-pro-
	cessor board were to become popular enough to be considered a de-
	facto standard, I'm sure Tom Hudson would support it (the accessory
	hook would prove useful here).
	B) a higher-resolution video card for the megas (could probably be
	done for the ST's as well).  Again, a custom accessory could do the
	job.
--
				- Jonathan A. Fischer
				jafischer@lily.waterloo.edu
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