Flash@UMass.BITNET.UUCP (01/29/87)
Hi, There is ONLY one Mac emulator out, it is the one by David Small. The so called "Magic Bongo" is nothing but someone who copied david's CUSTOM software to disk and the contents of apple's COPYRIGHTED roms to disk too and patched them to it works. This is *VERY* illegal. The reason David Small uses a cartridge to plug ROMs in is so Apple wont sue his pants off for encouraging apple rom copies by disk. I heard a rumor that Supra Corporation has a patch for the folder limit problem, sure it WONT work with the next rom upgrade, but that doesn't seem to be in the near future. You people have to understand Atari's dilema. Allan Pratt DOES want to supply you with solves for this, but Atari Corp. is not run by Pratt or Niell, they instead end up having to represent the views of the company while not necessary agreeing with them, same goes for dealers. Now, if we only knew good ole Jack's address. Rick Flashman Flash@UMASS.BITNET 1040 N. Pleasant St. #381 Flash%UMASS.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU Amherst, MA 01002 R-FLASHMAN on GENIE (413) 549-0173 "Only after the traveler has stopped to reflect has his real journey begun." - from T. Serstevens
rjd@nancy.UUCP (02/04/87)
In article <870128221041.000016FD.AGDZ.MA@UMass> Flash@UMass.BITNET (Rick Flashman) writes: >Hi, > > There is ONLY one Mac emulator out, it is the one by David Small. >The so called "Magic Bongo" is nothing but someone who copied >david's CUSTOM software to disk and the contents of apple's COPYRIGHTED >roms to disk too and patched them to it works. This is *VERY* illegal. >The reason David Small uses a cartridge to plug ROMs in is so Apple >wont sue his pants off for encouraging apple rom copies by disk. > OK. This is getting silly and I don't understand why everyone is getting close to a state of paranoia...including Apple Inc. Since Apple is so freaked out concerning abuse of their ROMs (which, incidently, is their right) why doesn't someone (i.e. David Small) get a MacIntosh and reverse engineer their ROMs, and make new ones? And before someone tells me: oh, no...that can't be done...think about where all of the PC Clones (including Atari PC) get their information from? You think IBM provides it? And before you say; oh, no...MacIntoshes are different! I suggest you pick up a copy of this monthes MacWorld...the new product out on the market is the world's first MacIntosh clone: the Dynamic. It is a laptop portable that apparently uses a built in joystick instead of a mouse. Now, where do you think those people got their Mac ROMs? Think they walked up to Apple and asked real nice? If the Magic Sack is such a hit, and their really is a market, then it is worth someone's time to sit down, rewrite the ROMs (from scratch), and include it in the cartridge instead of sending people all over creation looking for Apple's ROM's just to keep Apple happy.... - Rob DeMillo Brown University - Planetary Science Group UUCP: ...{seismo!harpo}!ihnp4!brunix!rjd CompuServe: 73537,2737 ------ "...I am not so sure what you want me for! Either your machine is a fool, or me..." -- "WarGames", CSN
holloway@drivax.UUCP (02/06/87)
In article <12056@brunix.UUCP> rjd@nancy.UUCP (Rob DeMillo) writes: >If the Magic Sack is such a hit, and their really is a market, then it >is worth someone's time to sit down, rewrite the ROMs (from scratch), >and include it in the cartridge instead of sending people all over >creation looking for Apple's ROM's just to keep Apple happy.... I think you could expect a call from Apple's lawyers _real_soon_ about their "look and feel" patents, i.e., the way the entire windowing system works. I think they're full of s**t, but I'm (admittedly) biased. You have to remember that the Macintosh is not (yet) an "open" system, which means that for the most part, you have only Apple providing regular hardware updates. But with the new "Open" Mac, maybe we'll see some room for improvement. Although it must go so much against Apple's grain to provide specs for their machine, that they'll probably fight any clone... A couple of years back, one of the managers at Apple said, to an InfoWorld reporter, that Apple saw the rush of MacPaint clones on other machines, pull-down menus, meeses, the whole bit, as a vindication of the Macintosh concept. You might conclude that Apple wanted to set an industry standard with their Macintosh, right? Not so, since they soon started threatening those same MacPaint clones (most for the IBM-PC) with lawsuits unless they changed their style. Apple wants to be the industry standard, and it doesn't want competition, and it will use whatever money it takes to squash anyone who comes out with anything similar to what they've done. -- ....!ucbvax!hplabs!amdahl!drivax!holloway Put the power of RANDOM NUMBERS to work FOR YOU!
andy@cbmvax.UUCP (02/06/87)
In article <12056@brunix.UUCP> rjd@nancy.UUCP (Rob DeMillo) writes: >the new product out on the >market is the world's first MacIntosh clone: the Dynamic. It is a laptop >portable that apparently uses a built in joystick instead of a mouse. >Now, where do you think those people got their Mac ROMs? Think they >walked up to Apple and asked real nice? Actually, yes, I think they did. As well as the circuit board. Apple is supporting (at least) 2 companies in the pursuit of a portable Mac. andy finkel (Apple questions in Atari newsgroup *should* be answered by Commodore people :-) -- andy finkel Commodore/Amiga {ihnp4|seismo|allegra}!cbmvax!andy /or/ pyramid!amiga!andy Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share. I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors. "Never make anything simple and efficient when it can be complex and wonderful."
keeshu@nikhefk.UUCP (02/10/87)
In article <12056@brunix.UUCP> rjd@nancy.UUCP (Rob DeMillo) writes: > >And before you say; oh, no...MacIntoshes are different! I suggest you >pick up a copy of this monthes MacWorld...the new product out on the >market is the world's first MacIntosh clone: the Dynamic. It is a laptop >portable that apparently uses a built in joystick instead of a mouse. >Now, where do you think those people got their Mac ROMs? Think they >walked up to Apple and asked real nice? > > - Rob DeMillo > Brown University - Planetary Science Group > > UUCP: ...{seismo!harpo}!ihnp4!brunix!rjd > CompuServe: 73537,2737 The people who made the DynaMac (not the Dynamic) just took a Mac Plus, and build the Mac motherboard into one of their portable cases. The rest they threw away. No wonder the DynaMac will cost more than a Mac Plus! The DynaMac does not use a joystick (shudder...) but a trackball. You could use it a a laptop, but since it weighs just as much as a Mac Plus I think it would be rather trying on your knees. And yes; the DynaMac people are going to walk up to Apple and ask real nice if they can have Mac Plus motherboards. Since they are working in another market segment they think Apple won't mind them making portables out of carriables. -- Kees | UUCP : keeshu@nikhefk.uucp or : {[wherever]!seismo}!mcvax!nikhefk!keeshu | FIDO : kees huyser at 28/9 or 500/11 | BITNET : u00212@hasara5.bitnet | SNAIL : kees huyser, NIKHEF-K, PO Box 4395, 1009 AJ Amsterdam, Netherlands
HEART01@TAUNIVM.BITNET (RON LEOR) (01/05/88)
Dear sir.
I own an Atari 1040ST and I would like to try using it for
image processing in cardiology. I need a video digitizer which
will be able to digitize stop-frame video tape pictures (not
video camera), and be compatible with the video standards PAL,
NTSC, SECAM, colors and/or black and white. Apart from obtaining
the pictures on the monitor screen, I am interested in getting
numeric picture files of 8 bits for each pixel. I would
appreciate if you will be able to find out for me information on
the above subject, be it available commercial devices, electronic
kits, tested circuits in data sheet form or BITNET addresses of
ST users successfully employing such digitizers.
I am looking forward to your answer.
Sincerely yours
Dr. Ron Leor,
The Heart Institute,
Sheba Hospital, Tel Hashomer,
Tel Avive, ISRAEL.