[comp.sys.atari.st] WordPerfect - Differing opinions

parora@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu (Pavneet Arora) (01/11/88)

I am sorry for not responding earlier.  Our site just received the
INFO-ATARI 16 digest.  I didn't realize there was any activity on
WordPerfect.

ASIDE:  Al Gaspar or Rich Dankert, if you could please send me a 
        summary I'd really appreciate it.

I didn't get Al's original posting either but I did see Rich's
response.

I too am at a loss as to our differing opinions.  I will try to
present some details that may clear up the situation.

As far as I know, there are two existing versions of the program
with another one out in the US but not yet up in Canada.  These
are 10/10/87 and 10/28/87, both of which I have.  You can verfify
the dates by invoking the online HELP.  It is on the top right of
the HELP screen.

My configuration is as follows:

          A 1040ST with a single DD floppy
          Monochrome monitor
          Roland 1012 9-pin printer (just another FX-80 emulator)
            I believe this printer sells in the US as the Panasonic
            1080i.

My problems stem mainly from using printer.prg.  That is where there
I have found most of the bugs.  Of course, if there are bugs there
then it is awfully difficult to get formatted documents for your
printer 8{).  However, there are bugs in WP.prg as well.

The critical problem for me was the following:

I was trying to get right-justified documents with a proportionally
spaced NLQ font, i.e., use my printer to its fullest.  I spent
many hours skirting the plain sloppy bugs in printer.prg and finally
got my character width defintion set up.

I then transferred this definition on the WP disk etc. so that I
could use it.  Now when I try to print the document, it prints it
beautifully, NLQ, proportionally spaced font.  At least it does the
first time.  Now without doing ANYTHING to the document and just
asking it to print the document again, all of a sudden right-
justification is forgotten and you get a non-formatted document.
Nothing except getting out of the program and invoking it again
will print documents right-justifified.

I can try to list other bugs as well if people are interested.  I
didn't know if netters would want to read about the intricacies
of WP.

The only other thing I can really say is that I have written WP
two letters with different lists of bugs.  They have acknowledged
that the bugs existed and the latest release (i.e. early January,
the one I presume Neil was Beta testing) was actually scheduled
for Dec 15, 1987.  I was told by WP Canada (ala J.B. Marketing)
that they had relayed my lists to UTAH and the Dec 15 release was
delayed a month as a result of the list of bugs that I sent them.

I hope this helps us get to the bottom of this. 

Pavneet Arora
parora@utgpu

parora@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu (Pavneet Arora) (01/11/88)

I forgot to mention in the previous article that printer.prg is the
program to set up your printer definitions so that wp.prg which
is the on-screen word-processing program has a printer driver to
beam documents to your printer.  Hope this clarifies the discussion
for non-WP users.

Pavneet Arora
parora@utgpu

rich@lakesys.UUCP (Rich Dankert) (01/13/88)

In article <1988Jan10.213637.7864@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> parora@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu (Pavneet Arora) writes:
>
>
>I am sorry for not responding earlier.  Our site just received the
>INFO-ATARI 16 digest.  I didn't realize there was any activity on
>WordPerfect.
>
>ASIDE:  Al Gaspar or Rich Dankert, if you could please send me a 
>        summary I'd really appreciate it.

	I would but the system i'm on doesn't have the information anymore.

>
>My configuration is as follows:
>
>          A 1040ST with a single DD floppy
>          Monochrome monitor
>          Roland 1012 9-pin printer (just another FX-80 emulator)
>            I believe this printer sells in the US as the Panasonic
>            1080i.
>
>My problems stem mainly from using printer.prg.  That is where there
>I have found most of the bugs.  Of course, if there are bugs there
>then it is awfully difficult to get formatted documents for your
>printer 8{).  However, there are bugs in WP.prg as well.

I will say that the printer configurations that are supplied on the disk
are not quite correct, at least for the Panasonic. (seeing that this is the 
only printer I tested, as I have a KX-P1090 (plain jane))

What I had to do was to set the end of document to a full reset instead of 
what they provided, seing that they set the configuration at the start 
of each document, this causes no problems. This I really *never considered
to be a bug (being that it was a preset configuration) and was a minor 
change only. After that, the document went out to the printer perfectly 
just as the  TEST file was supposed to.

As far as the two versions, that could be entirely possible. As I stated, 
with the version that I have No problems for at all. My main problem with 
the many problems described by many users of the program, were really due to 
the lack of reading a manual, which would have cured there preoblems, is they 
would only read HARD paper copy.

My configuration just for edification is 

1) 520ST -- bumped to 1 meg
1) MonoChrome monitor
1) Color monitor
2) SS/DD drives
1) Kx-p1090 printer

I do run a ramdisk with the program (drive D:) at about 200K. Other than this
we seem to be running pretty close systems. 

UUCP: {Ihnp4,uwvax}!uwmcsd1!lakesys!rich
Discalimer: The words,ideas,and expressions are my own, and not nessasarily 
always correct, and I do not have any ties to W/P corp. I'm just a very 
satisfied customer.