[comp.sys.atari.st] Atari 1040ST availability

joe@lakesys.UUCP (Joe Pantuso) (02/02/88)

This is very important to me, so if you have any clue tell me asap!

I intended to order an Atari 1040 ST color system today.  I have been
slavishly saving my money for months and months now, only to have the price
raised on me again and again.  This upsets me.  But then the clincher:

NOBODY HAS THE ST IN STOCK!

I called CMO, Lyco, Bay Express, All the mail order firms I could get my hands
on and a couple of local ones too.  And NOT ONE of them had the 1040 in stock
and did not expect to for 2-3 weeks.

What the heck?  I want to order now, and I don't want to have to put up with
another price increase.  If anyone knows of anywhere that I can order from
mailorder with a total *including shipping* of $1010 or less, REPLY.

Would somone from Atari care to explain whatever happened to their motto?

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bds@lzaz.ATT.COM (BRUCE SZABLAK) (02/02/88)

In article <424@lakesys.UUCP>, joe@lakesys.UUCP (Joe Pantuso) writes:
> I intended to order an Atari 1040 ST color system today.  I have been
> slavishly saving my money for months and months now...

A suggestion: Buy a 520 and use the left over cash to buy the software
that will make your box more than an expensive paper weight. You HAVE
priced the software your going to need?

mark@lakesys.UUCP (Mark Storin) (02/03/88)

In article <53@lzaz.ATT.COM> bds@lzaz.ATT.COM (BRUCE SZABLAK) writes:
>In article <424@lakesys.UUCP>, joe@lakesys.UUCP (Joe Pantuso) writes:
>> I intended to order an Atari 1040 ST color system today.  I have been
>> slavishly saving my money for months and months now...
>
>A suggestion: Buy a 520 and use the left over cash to buy the software
>that will make your box more than an expensive paper weight. You HAVE
>priced the software your going to need?

	I tend to disagree with this statement.  Mainly because the 520 now
sports an internal single sided drive.  This makes it much more difficult to
upgrade to double sided drives.  The old 520's had external drives.  Much
easier to upgrade.

	It also makes more sense to go with a full meg right away.  Soon
applications will be expecting a meg (what with the Mega's being out).  Why go
thru the extra hassle of doing a memory upgrade (which I believe he would want
to do right away if he got a 520).

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joe@lakesys.UUCP (Joe Pantuso) (02/04/88)

In article <426@lakesys.UUCP> mark@lakesys.UUCP (Mark Storin) writes:
>In article <53@lzaz.ATT.COM> bds@lzaz.ATT.COM (BRUCE SZABLAK) writes:
>>In article <424@lakesys.UUCP>, joe@lakesys.UUCP (Joe Pantuso) writes:
>>> I intended to order an Atari 1040 ST color system today.  I have been
>>> slavishly saving my money for months and months now...
>>
>>A suggestion: Buy a 520 and use the left over cash to buy the software
>>that will make your box more than an expensive paper weight. You HAVE
>>priced the software your going to need?
>
>       I tend to disagree with this statement.  Mainly because the 520 now
>sports an internal single sided drive.  This makes it much more difficult to
>upgrade to double sided drives.  The old 520's had external drives.  Much
>easier to upgrade.
>
>       It also makes more sense to go with a full meg right away.  Soon
>applications will be expecting a meg (what with the Mega's being out).  Why go
>thru the extra hassle of doing a memory upgrade (which I believe he would want
>to do right away if he got a 520).
>

Yes, I have priced software.  And as a matter of fact 80% of it _requires_ at
least a meg.  This I knew already which is why I wanted the 1040.  Also, I
intend to make all the hardware modifications there are possible, and it is
much better to *start* with a 1040 than to end with one...

In any case, I ordered one.  When I talked to CMO the first time the operator
said they expected them in next Monday (translation:15 to 20 days), that is
the best date anyone gave me, the price is the best too(even though it is $200
more than I thought I would pay 3 months back-BLAME THAT ONE ON THE COMPANY
WITH THE INITIALS A.T.A.R.I.), so hopefully I'll have it _by then end of the
month_ for $1004.

Stay tuned....


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jchiu@ccvaxa.UUCP (02/06/88)

>upgrade to double sided drives.  The old 520's had external drives.  Much
>easier to upgrade.

Where and/or how to perform such an upgrade?  Thank you.

-- Jeff Chiu

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jsp@sp7040.UUCP (John Peters) (02/09/88)

In article <53@lzaz.ATT.COM>, bds@lzaz.ATT.COM (BRUCE SZABLAK) writes:
> In article <424@lakesys.UUCP>, joe@lakesys.UUCP (Joe Pantuso) writes:
> > I intended to order an Atari 1040 ST color system today.  I have been
> > slavishly saving my money for months and months now...
> 
> A suggestion: Buy a 520 and use the left over cash to buy the software
> that will make your box more than an expensive paper weight. You HAVE
> priced the software your going to need?

	An admiral Idea except for one little thing, WHAT IF I RUN OUT
OF MEMORY.  Well the ST is not a vertual machine.  That means you have
to have available whatever memory you are going to use.  One might just
think that 512K for a single user machine is a GODs plenty.  Well its not.

	I have a deskcart plugged into the cartridge port and do a lot
of work with Mark Williams C running with Beckmeyers Multi-Tasking C
Shell.  Several times I have run up against the wall of not enough memory
with my 1040 ST.  Then I have to get rid of the ram disk and set so my temp
space is somewhere on the hard drive.  This slows down compiles quite a bit.

	My point is if you ever expect to expand the machine to really do
anything other than be an expensive "lets-look-at-the-graphics" toy,
you might as well plan for the future and puchase the 1040 now.  If you plan
to use it for the kids and a toy, fine the 520 is dandy.

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bds@lzaz.ATT.COM (BRUCE SZABLAK) (02/16/88)

In article <281@sp7040.UUCP>, jsp@sp7040.UUCP (John Peters) writes:
> In article <53@lzaz.ATT.COM>, bds@lzaz.ATT.COM (BRUCE SZABLAK) writes:
> > In article <424@lakesys.UUCP>, joe@lakesys.UUCP (Joe Pantuso) writes:
> > > I intended to order an Atari 1040 ST color system today.  I have been
> > > slavishly saving my money for months and months now...
> > 
> > A suggestion: Buy a 520 and use the left over cash to buy the software
> > that will make your box more than an expensive paper weight. You HAVE
> > priced the software your going to need?
> 
> 	An admiral Idea except for one little thing, WHAT IF I RUN OUT
> OF MEMORY.  Well the ST is not a vertual machine.  That means you have
> to have available whatever memory you are going to use.  One might just
> think that 512K for a single user machine is a GODs plenty.  Well its not.

The point I was trying to make (and failed miserably) is that when buying
a computer system you should understand that the investment in software
may well end up being a sizeable precentage of the machine cost. The
original writer gave me the impression that he could barely afford the
1040 let alone the software he would need to run it. I will admit that
a bare 520 is a little small (particular in the floppy) but with the
addition of a hard disk, it becomes quite reasonable. My mistake was
not mentioning the investment such peripherals also add to the system
price. If you can afford the 1040, the peripherals, and the software
you need (and think its worth it), then by all means buy one. I for
one wish I could buy a Sun Workstation with all the trimmings...