sqrkl@csvax.liv.ac.uk (02/17/88)
Ahem, but I've noticed something strange going on : Why, WHY, W H Y are binaries being posted into comp.sys.atari.st ??? All other groups post to comp.binaries.<machine>...there USED to be a comp.binaries.atari.st at my site, but it expired after 60 days due to a lack of postings... Does this mean I have to sift through comp.sys.atari.st to find the programs I want ? Signed Richard K. Lloyd SQRKL@UK.AC.LIV.CSVAX --- I love my Mac Plus, Amiga 1000 and Archimedes A310. What ? You've only got an ST ? You don't know what you're missing.... ---
ccs011@vega.ucdavis.edu (0058;0000016102;300;9999;94;ccs) (02/20/88)
The primary reason that binaries are posted into comp.sys.atari.st is that sending them through comp.binaries... takes forever. I believe the moderator of comp.bin.. had some difficutlties with his hard disk some time ago but programs still don't seem to be getting through. Bill Frazer ccs011@vega.ucdavis.edu
axel@coma.UUCP (Axel Mahler) (02/23/88)
In article <386@csvax.liv.ac.uk> sqrkl@csvax.liv.ac.uk writes: >Why, WHY, W H Y are binaries being posted into comp.sys.atari.st ??? >All other groups post to comp.binaries.<machine>...there USED to be a >comp.binaries.atari.st at my site, but it expired after 60 days due to >a lack of postings... I've been waiting some time for this matter to come up. Richard, comp.{sources,binaries}.atari.st used to be moderated newsgroups, meaning that not just EVERYbody is allowed to post his junk there. However, moderated newsgroups completely rely on a MODERATOR doing his job REGULARLY. Unfortunately, in this particular case, the moderator has obviously disappeared from the net without notice. > Does this mean I have to sift through comp.sys.atari.st to find the >programs I want ? > I'm afraid this DOES mean you (and I, and many others) have to sift through this noisegroup. I see three possible solutions to the current dilemma: 1. Find someone reliable with enough time and suitable resources, and make that person the new moderator of comp.{src,bin}.st. 2. Make both newsgroups unmoderated or, 3. rm-group both groups and return to the way programs have been distributed before - through comp.sys.atari.st. Currently breaking its way is 'solution' no. 3. I hate the idea. I'd be very much in favor of no. 1, but - in case nobody volunteers - would prefer no. 2 over what's going on now. I'd like to hear about other ideas, or how you folks out there feel about the current situation, and my suggestions. cheers, Axel. -- Axel Mahler, Tech.Univ. Berlin UUCP: axel@coma.uucp (unido!coma!axel) BITNET: axel@db0tui62.bitnet
Ram-Ashwin@cs.yale.edu (Ashwin Ram) (02/24/88)
In article <347@coma.UUCP>, axel@coma (Axel Mahler) writes: > I see three possible solutions to the > current dilemma: > > 1. Find someone reliable with enough time and suitable resources, > and make that person the new moderator of comp.{src,bin}.st. > 2. Make both newsgroups unmoderated or, > 3. rm-group both groups and return to the way programs have been > distributed before - through comp.sys.atari.st. > > Currently breaking its way is 'solution' no. 3. I hate the idea. > I'd be very much in favor of no. 1, but - in case nobody volunteers - > would prefer no. 2 over what's going on now. > > I'd like to hear about other ideas, or how you folks out there feel > about the current situation, and my suggestions. I vote for 2. 3 is bad because you have to wade your way through too much stuff just to find programs; also, there is no separation of sources and binaries. 1 is bad because it doesn't work. Why burden one guy with so much work? Why rely on one guy's time (and machine) to get PD programs through to everyone? 2 is great. I can just picture all that code coming through... No more bottlenecks.
dale@slovax.UUCP (Dale L. Thomas) (02/25/88)
> In article <347@coma.UUCP>, axel@coma (Axel Mahler) writes: > > I see three possible solutions to the > > current dilemma: > > > > 1. Find someone reliable with enough time and suitable resources, > > and make that person the new moderator of comp.{src,bin}.st. > > 2. Make both newsgroups unmoderated or, > > 3. rm-group both groups and return to the way programs have been > > distributed before - through comp.sys.atari.st. > > > > Currently breaking its way is 'solution' no. 3. I hate the idea. > > I'd be very much in favor of no. 1, but - in case nobody volunteers - > > would prefer no. 2 over what's going on now. > > > > I'd like to hear about other ideas, or how you folks out there feel > > about the current situation, and my suggestions. > > I vote for 2. 3 is bad because you have to wade your way through too much stuff > just to find programs; also, there is no separation of sources and binaries. 1 > is bad because it doesn't work. Why burden one guy with so much work? Why rely > on one guy's time (and machine) to get PD programs through to everyone? > > 2 is great. I can just picture all that code coming through... No more bottlenecks. I too would like to go with #2, for the same reasons above. Lets see some code!! -- {psivax,ism780}!logico!slovax!dale : {hplsla,uw-beaver}!tikal!slovax!dale Dale Thomas R & D Associates,3625 Perkins Lane SW,Tacoma,Wa 98499,206-581-1322
frankg@nikhefk.UUCP (Frank Geerling) (02/26/88)
In article <2823@slovax.UUCP> dale@slovax.UUCP (Dale L. Thomas) writes: >> > >> > 1. Find someone reliable with enough time and suitable resources, >> > and make that person the new moderator of comp.{src,bin}.st. >> > 2. Make both newsgroups unmoderated or, >> > 3. rm-group both groups and return to the way programs have been >> > distributed before - through comp.sys.atari.st. I'm in favor for option 2. Frank Geerling Frank Geerling (frankg@nikhefk.uucp) Usenet: {seismo, philabs, decvax}!mcvax!frankg@nikhefk Normal mail: Frank Geerling NIKHEF-K (PIMU) Postbus 4395 1009 AJ Amsterdam The Netherlands
ljdickey@water.waterloo.edu (Lee Dickey) (02/29/88)
Those who read "news.groups" need to be aware of the discussion that is now going on in "comp.sys.atari.st". The situation seems to be that sometime moderator of comp.binaries.atari.st comp.sources.atari.st has resigned, and now some folks are posting to "comp.sys.atari.st". We seem to agree that there is a need for these first two groups but no volunteer has come forward. I think that a good case ca be made for removing the "moderated" classification, and allowing general postings, even with the "bad software" problems that are likely to arise. Perhaps another volunteer will come forward once the need for moderation becomes clear again. Here is a sample of recent discussion. In article <324@nikhefk.UUCP> frankg@nikhefk.UUCP (Frank Geerling) writes: >In article <2823@slovax.UUCP> dale@slovax.UUCP (Dale L. Thomas) writes: >>> > >>> > 1. Find someone reliable with enough time and suitable resources, >>> > and make that person the new moderator of comp.{src,bin}.st. >>> > 2. Make both newsgroups unmoderated or, >>> > 3. rm-group both groups and return to the way programs have been >>> > distributed before - through comp.sys.atari.st. > >I'm in favor for option 2. > > Frank Geerling > (frankg@nikhefk.uucp) > -- L. J. Dickey, Faculty of Mathematics, University of Waterloo. ljdickey@water.waterloo.edu ljdickey@watdcs.BITNET ljdickey@water.UUCP ...!uunet!water!ljdickey
acn@caen.engin.umich.edu (Jon Brode) (03/04/88)
I wouldn't mind being the moderator for either or both groups. Who do I contact to become the moderator? Jon Brode -- acn@caen.engin.umich.edu .