[comp.sys.atari.st] secrets of FLASH?

miken@hcr.UUCP (Mike Nemeth) (03/21/88)

i've got FLASH and just recently got my hands on the source for umodem,
which although for 4.2|ver7|sys3 seems to compile without complaints on
sysV, so now i can upload/download via xmodem right?
wrong. both sides just sit there waiting until one of them times out.
is there some secret code that must be entered from the keyboard, some
magic word to be intoned? some small animal to be sacrificed? if not,
is there a real copy of xmodem for unix that'll work with the xmodem
one gets using FLASH ? if not, okay, i'm not fussy, i'll take KERMIT,
er, that is if some entity out there could direct me to a version that'll
run on the ST...

oh BY THE WAY, my mouse died, and after fruitless attempts to revive it
i took it into a local atari dealer. that was a month ago. went in there
yesterday and the dealer presents it to me with a replacement charge of
$45!!!!
to understate the case, i was not amused. the chap at the store said he'd
seen a lot of dead mice showing up lately, and that he didn't make a cent
off of getting them replaced. atari bills him $X, he bills me $X (+ tax).
-- 

Mike Nemeth                "etch out a future of your own design,
...utzoo!hcr!miken          well tailored to your needs" - T. Dolby

c60b-at@buddy.Berkeley.EDU (John Kawakami -0^0-) (03/22/88)

In article <3171@hcr.UUCP> miken@hcr.UUCP (Mike Nemeth) writes:
>to understate the case, i was not amused. the chap at the store said he'd
>seen a lot of dead mice showing up lately, and that he didn't make a cent
>off of getting them replaced. atari bills him $X, he bills me $X (+ tax).

Could it be the dreaded TAIWAN mouse?!?  As far as I can tell from the
postings on the net, the Taiwan mouse is made of cheaper components than
the Japan mouse.  I have a Japan mouse, and the guts are mostly chip-
type capacitors and tiny resistors.  If you need a new mouse, hunt down
one made in Japan.

In a related vein,  anyone know how to hook up an optical mouse to the
ST (or any other machine other than IBMacintosh).  The mice are about
$75 and are _much_ nicer than mice with balls;-)  Should be a pretty
simple effort (if you're an EE).


John Kawakami              /    c60b-at@buddy.berkeley.edu
It wouldn't take me long   /cc-28@cory.berkeley.edu
To tell you how to find ti /      ----*     -O^O-

greg@bilbo (Greg Wageman) (03/23/88)

In article <3171@hcr.UUCP> miken@hcr.UUCP (Mike Nemeth) writes:
>i've got FLASH and just recently got my hands on the source for umodem,
>which although for 4.2|ver7|sys3 seems to compile without complaints on
>sysV, so now i can upload/download via xmodem right?
>wrong. both sides just sit there waiting until one of them times out.
>is there some secret code that must be entered from the keyboard, some
>magic word to be intoned? some small animal to be sacrificed? if not,

No.  The receiving end initiates the command by sending a control
character, which one evades my memory and I don't have the spec
on-line.  Just make sure one end knows it is sending (the umodem flag
is "-sb" for "send binary" or "-st" for "send text, nyet?) and the
other is set up to receive.  If both ends think they're receivers,
neither will initiate the transfer and will eventually time out.

I use FLASH! version 1. something-or-other with umodem; it works fine.

>is there a real copy of xmodem for unix that'll work with the xmodem
>one gets using FLASH ? if not, okay, i'm not fussy, i'll take KERMIT,
>er, that is if some entity out there could direct me to a version that'll
>run on the ST...

By the way, Antic also sells a FLASH! accessory that provides Kermit,
as well as a sort of mini-bbs.  Except it isn't REALLY a BBS, but it
is useful for, say, dialing up your Atari while at work...

	Cheers,


	-Greg {decwrl!spar!snjsn1!blfca1!greg}

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	-Greg {decwrl!spar!snjsn1!blfca1!greg}

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david@bdt.UUCP (David Beckemeyer) (03/23/88)

I run stock umodem on System V, and it seems to work.  I don't use FLASH
though.  It could be that one side is using Xmodem-CRC and not the other.
If there is a way to tell FLASH to switch on/off Xmodem-CRC mode v.s plain
old Xmodem, you might try that.

If you can't find kermit anywhere else for the ST, I have a few versions
on my BBS at (415) 452-4792 (1200 baud; type 'bbs' at the first login prompt).
-- 
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