[comp.sys.atari.st] Optical Mice

"Ian_Daniel.WGCERX"@XEROX.COM (03/29/88)

You are perfectly correct,an optical mouse can be interfaced to the Atari.All
you need are the relevant pin outs of both Atari and mouse.And the ability to
put the correct plug on the end of the mouse cable.Most mice I have seen appear
to be compatible with the Atari interface.I have in fact interfaced an optical
mouse onto my system and it is working fine at present.

				Regards,
					Ian

dragon@olivej.olivetti.com (Give me a quarter or I'll touch you) (03/31/88)

in article <880329-001407-1668@Xerox>, "Ian_Daniel.WGCERX"@XEROX.COM says:
 
> You are perfectly correct,an optical mouse can be interfaced to the Atari.All
> you need are the relevant pin outs of both Atari and mouse.And the ability to
> put the correct plug on the end of the mouse cable.Most mice I have seen appear
> to be compatible with the Atari interface.I have in fact interfaced an optical
> mouse onto my system and it is working fine at present.
 
> 				Regards,
> 					Ian


Could you mention some brand names of optical mice which are interface
compatible with the ST?  I have yet to see one.  On the other hand, most
opto-mechanical mice are (the ST mouse is of this variety, though).  I've
successfully interfaced Logitech, Amiga, DEC, etc. opto-mechanical mice.

It seems most optical mice use a serial interface rather than the parallel
type x-y-xquad-yquad interface.  It would take a little bit of hacking but
should otherwise be possible.

--Dean


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sethk@sco.COM (Seth Katz) (04/01/88)

chatterchatterchatter<880329-001407-1668@Xerox>chatterchatter"Ian_Daniel.WGCERX"@XEROX.COM:
| You are perfectly correct,an optical mouse can be interfaced to the Atari.All
| you need are the relevant pin outs of both Atari and mouse.And the ability to
| put the correct plug on the end of the mouse cable.Most mice I have seen appear
| to be compatible with the Atari interface.I have in fact interfaced an optical
| mouse onto my system and it is working fine at present.

How about posting those pinouts, at least for the mouse you use, and
the Atari?
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pes@ux63.bath.ac.uk (Smee) (04/07/88)

In answer to Dean Brunette, I had one mail reply to my original query.
(Sorry, whoever you were, I've disposed of my copy so don't remember
your name, but thanks.)  If I recall correctly, the person was an Atari
person.  Anyway...

Dean is right, I believe.  Most mice I've seen (admittedly, mostly for the
IBM-PC, but I'd bet that's the big market) are 'intelligent'.  The stuff
that the ST keyboard processor does for the ST mouse is generally done
inside the PC mouse, and the PC-mouse returns what amounts to a character
string telling how far it has moved since it was last asked, and in which
direction.  The ST, on the other hand, wants the raw 'quadrature' data
which is basically a pair of pulse trains (really a pair of pairs, one
pair per axis) from which the ST can deduce which way the mouse is going
and how fast.  It would probably be possible to 'gut' a PC mouse but
would be a pricey option.

The person who mailed me, though, says that Mouse Systems Corporation
make a '2-button, quadrature' mouse which can be used with the ST,
though it requires you to rewire it to swap the two X lines (would be
pins 1 and 2 on the 9-pin connector).  I've written them asking for info
(and, if possible, a local distributor -- easier than international
mail-order or asking my brothers to buy me one and ship it over).

If anyone else wants to try them, they are 'Mouse Systems Corp,
2336H Walsh Avenue, Santa Clara, CA 95051'.  (Note, I have no connection
with them -- at least not yet.)  (If any of the UK readers know who
imports Mouse Systems mice to the UK, please mail me.  I know that their
PC-mice show up over here, because we've got hundreds of them -- but I
haven't been able to trace them back to their source, think they must be
being imported with our PC's, one step removed.)

Cheers, Paul