jg@hpldola.HP.COM (Joe Gilray) (04/15/88)
I would really like to thank George Woodside for
a very useful and useable backup program, TURTLE.
I do have questions that the manual didn't answer
(at least I didn't see the answers, but I may simply
have read over them).
1) What is the fastest / easiest way to restore
a hard-disk from a TURTLE backup?
2) When running from the desktop, can the path
given be more than one directory? For example,
can it be "C: D: E:" (or would it be "C:,D:,E:")?
Thanks again,
Joe Gilray (hplabs!hpldola!jg)woodside@ttidca.TTI.COM (George Woodside) (04/18/88)
In article <11830005@hpldola.HP.COM> jg@hpldola.HP.COM (Joe Gilray) writes: > > >I would really like to thank George Woodside for >a very useful and useable backup program, TURTLE. > >I do have questions that the manual didn't answer >(at least I didn't see the answers, but I may simply >have read over them). > > 1) What is the fastest / easiest way to restore > a hard-disk from a TURTLE backup? > First, you're welcome. No, you didn't miss the restore documentation in the manual, since there isn't any :^( I have some ideas about doing this efficiently, but no time to implement them. I do have a couple of tools being tested by my long-suffering friends (thanks to Ken Adam, specifically) which I'll be posting here soon. There are nothing wonderful, just copy utilities which will move floppy images into the TURTLE RAMdisks, and a copy utility program which can create directories, copy entire directories with recursive descent, allow files to be selected by time and date stamp, etc. They don't address the more serious problems of GEMDOS performance, but make the restore process a little less painful. They're probably a couple of weeks away yet. > 2) When running from the desktop, can the path > given be more than one directory? For example, > can it be "C: D: E:" (or would it be "C:,D:,E:")? Yes. In the more recent versions, I've expanded the path dialog box to allow more typing space. You can enter different paths, if you want them all to be backed up at once. Use spaces for separators, not commas. And, be sure you enter paths, not files. C: is a path, for all of drive C, while C:\*.* is a whole bunch of files (presumably) which will not get you what you want. Entering C:\BIN C:\LIB C:\INCLUDE (assuming that BIN, LIB, and INCLUDE are directories) will cause all files in those three directories to be backed up. Whether nested directories in BIN, LIB, and INCLUDE would be backed up is controlled by the FILES ONLY menu option. The only other thing to note is that if you have sub directories on different drives, with the same names, and enter both those drives in a single execution, you may encounter some trouble. If the first directory was present in the RAMdisk when the second identically named sub directory was encountered, the files from the second sub directory would be added to the first sub directory. If, however, the RAMdisk was filled, and written to the floppies before the second identically named sub directory was encountered, you would then get two identically named sub directories on different backup floppies. > >Thanks again, >Joe Gilray (hplabs!hpldola!jg) -- *George R. Woodside - Citicorp/TTI - Santa Monica, CA *Path: ..!{trwrb|philabs|csun|psivax}!ttidca!woodside
ljdickey@water.waterloo.edu (Lee Dickey) (04/19/88)
In article <11830005@hpldola.HP.COM> jg@hpldola.HP.COM (Joe Gilray) writes: > > >I would really like to thank George Woodside for >a very useful and useable backup program, TURTLE. I too appreciate this program. I do not have a hard drive yet, but have seen an early version of TURTLE in operation, and I think it is great! > 1) What is the fastest / easiest way to restore > a hard-disk from a TURTLE backup? Wouldn't it be nice if the disk backup program would create an index that to help me find the disk that has the file I want. It should be quite simple, an ordinary text file with two entries in each line of text: a sequence number for disk, the complete path name of the file. so that I could use "grep" or a text editor to look at it. -- L. J. Dickey, Faculty of Mathematics, University of Waterloo. ljdickey@waterloo.edu ljdickey@WATDCS.UWaterloo.ca ljdickey@water.BITNET ljdickey@water.UUCP or ...!uunet!water!ljdickey
woodside@ttidca.TTI.COM (George Woodside) (04/25/88)
In article <1522@water.waterloo.edu> ljdickey@water.waterloo.edu (Lee Dickey) writes: [...edited] >Wouldn't it be nice if the disk backup program would create an index >that to help me find the disk that has the file I want. >It should be quite simple, an ordinary text file with two entries in >each line of text: TURTLE is really up against the wall for memory. There are a few things that could be added, but the program would no longer fit into memory with double sided disks (especially 10 sector formats). The index, however, shouldn't be a difficult stand alone application for someone to write. -- *George R. Woodside - Citicorp/TTI - Santa Monica, CA *Path: ..!{trwrb|philabs|csun|psivax}!ttidca!woodside