nowlin@ihuxy.ATT.COM (Jerry Nowlin) (05/18/88)
I own neochrome 1.0 but I have several PD programs to manipulate picture files in .NEO, .PI? and .TNY formats. I recently purchased firstword plus and really like it as a word processor. I'm especially happy with the built-in spelling checker. One of the main reasons I selected it, aside from the fact that it's compatible with my existing firstword documents, is that it can import and print pictures along with text. It does a real nice job considering I have a nine-pin dot matrix printer. Well, it turns out that it can only import .IMG files. I have no utility to convert .NEO files to .IMG files. There was a desk accessory called snapshot included with firstword plus that can grab part of a screen and create a .IMG file but when NEO is running none of the installed desk accessories are available. That makes it hard to grab parts of .NEO pictures. Has anyone else solved this problem yet? Are there other painting or drawing programs out there that generate .IMG files and can use .NEO files? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Jerry Nowlin (...!ihnp4!ihuxy!nowlin)
euloth@dalcsug.UUCP (George Seto) (05/25/88)
In article <2535@ihuxy.ATT.COM>, nowlin@ihuxy.ATT.COM (Jerry Nowlin) writes: > > Well, it turns out that it can only import .IMG files. I have no utility > to convert .NEO files to .IMG files. There was a desk accessory called > snapshot included with firstword plus that can grab part of a screen and > create a .IMG file but when NEO is running none of the installed desk > accessories are available. That makes it hard to grab parts of .NEO > pictures. Has anyone else solved this problem yet? Are there other > painting or drawing programs out there that generate .IMG files and can > use .NEO files? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > Jerry As mentioned Degas Elite will load Neo pictures into the program and save out as a Degas file. However there are several programs which will do that for you in the Public Domain as well plus other kinds of Snapshot programs as well. When I want to save a picture of ANY resolution or with or without the Desktop menmu bar around, I use a program called Degasave.prg which I have previously loaded into my Auto Folder. This program is really nice in that it traps the Alt-Help combination, which is usually for a screen dump to the printer. It dumps the screen instead to the disk in whatever resolution you are in. You can save as many as you like up to the disk space limitations. There are several versions of this kind of program. This one is without documentation, and when ARC'd is 768 bytes, but is about 4K unarc'd. The others do it in different ways. One popular one needs two programs or are they accessories. Haven't used them for quite some time. This will use the Alt-Help combination to save a picture, however, it doesn't save directly to the disk. It buffers it to a portion of screen memory and takes up a LOT of room if you have several screens to be saved. When you exit the program you call upon the accessory and then save the screens. Now, for the picture conversions and drawing packages. The only one I know for sure that generates a compatible IMG file is EasyDraw. Maybe JILCAD does as well. BTW, Publishing Partner uses any one of these formats according to our newsletter publisher. Tnystuff and its' newer versions all allow you to interchange between at least TNY, NEO, and PI? formats. The latest of this popular Shareware package will also convert from and maybe to other formats as well, including IFF and MAC pictures. If you want the ultimate all in one picture conversion tool, I have seen Picswitch in several incarnations, most notably Picsw6 and Picsw7. These were 0.6 and 0.7 versions of a ShareWare package from John Brochu. Really nice programs and useful if you have pictures in Atari 8 bit, IFF, MAC and a variety of choices which you might want to convert to Degas and or NEO pictures. I believe there is a version 1.0 coming out, which is to be gotten only by registered users of the older versions. It is an excellent program which should be supported. (Note Degas Elite will also convert from ALL these formats. but it will only save to Degas format. It also has an Accessory which will convert TNY pictures as well.) Hope this helps. If you want the Degasave program, I am not sure if I have sent this to Steve Grimm yet. Thought I did. George Seto - using a friend's account. -- ******************************************************************************* * euloth@dalcsug.uucp || Disclaimer: All opinions are my own unless other- * * /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ || wise noted. * ****AKA: Atari Nut*************************************************************