[comp.sys.atari.st] Posting of UN*X software to comp.sources.atari.st

poole@forty2.UUCP (Simon Poole) (05/30/88)

This  is NOT intended  as flame of  anybody, in particular  not of the
moderator of  comp.sources/binaries.atari.st. This posting is prompted
by the posting of  rzsz (the UN*X  version of zmodem) to comp.sources.
atari.st.

I propose that we adopt a policy of not posting software that does not
run on  the Atari ST  to the Atari  binaries  and  sources  groups, in
particular no software that has previously posted to comp.sources.unix
and comp.sources.misc.

Reasons:

	- it's a real waste of resources (something the various IBM-PC
	  groups really excell in, I don't think we have to copy all
	  brain-damage from them....)  

	- most sites that receive netnews and run UN*X, archive 
	  comp.sources.unix and comp.sources.misc locally. If you
	  are missing a program, or it's simply not installed at your
	  site, what about asking the person that is taking care of 
	  News at your place?

	- comp.sources.unix is archived at various public accessible
	  sites. There is no problem accessing archives from BITNET
	  and 'ARPANET' sites. The regular introduction to comp.sources.
	  unix lists all archives.
 
	- if a program is useful and a up to date version hasn't been 
	  posted for a long time, you should arrange that it gets posted
	  to one of the major sources groups, so that a maximum of people
	  will profit.

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koreth@ssyx.ucsc.edu (Steven Grimm) (05/31/88)

In article <305@forty2.UUCP> poole@forty2.UUCP (Simon Poole) writes:
>This  is NOT intended  as flame of  anybody, in particular  not of the
>moderator of  comp.sources/binaries.atari.st.

Good!  I hate being flamed. :-)

>This posting is prompted
>by the posting of  rzsz (the UN*X  version of zmodem) to comp.sources.
>atari.st.
>
>I propose that we adopt a policy of not posting software that does not
>run on  the Atari ST  to the Atari  binaries  and  sources  groups, in
>particular no software that has previously posted to comp.sources.unix
>and comp.sources.misc.

The version of rzsz that was posted to comp.sources.atari.st is (according
to the submitter) a greatly modified version of the software.  The original
author did not want to make the hacked-up version an "official" release, but
gave his permission to distribute the program as a companion to the Atari
zmdm program.  Apparently the program was posted to comp.sources.atari.st
once before (before I became moderator) so there is some precedent.

I agree that in most cases, UNIX programs should be bounced to the appropriate
group, and I will do so.  I thought that this case was an exception.

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-Steven Grimm			Moderator, comp.{sources,binaries}.atari.st
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wisner@killer.UUCP (Bill Wisner) (06/04/88)

>	- most sites that receive netnews and run UN*X, archive 
>	  comp.sources.unix and comp.sources.misc locally.

This is one of the most questionable statements I've ever seen from
Simon Poole. MOST sites? MOST sites that receive netnews don't have
the resources to archive everything. I'd say perhaps 35 to 40% do.

>	- comp.sources.unix is archived at various public accessible
>	  sites. There is no problem accessing archives from BITNET
>	  and 'ARPANET' sites. The regular introduction to comp.sources.
>	  unix lists all archives.

And I archive them here on killer. They're available by anonymous UUCP.
And no, I've not made comp.sources.atari.st and comp.binaries.atari.st
available yet (hint hint, Steve, hint hint).
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Bill Wisner
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