[comp.sys.atari.st] High end MIDI sequencers

cag@hpfclr.HP.COM (Craig Gleason) (06/09/88)

>/ hpfclr:comp.sys.atari.st / Crawley@ALDERAAN.SCRC.SYMBOLICS.COM (Eric S. Crawley) / 12:37 pm  Jun  7, 1988 /
>I am looking for a real high quality MIDI sequencer for my ST.  I am
>torn between the new C-Lab Creator and Dr. T's KCS Level II.  Has anyone
>out there used either of these sequencers and would care to comment on
>them?  I have read all the reviews that I could find in Keyboard
>Magazine on them.  Thanks in advance for any info you can provide.
>
>	Eric Crawley
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Take a look at Steinberg's Pro-24 version 2.1 (or 3.0, if it's out).
I've had it for several months now and in general I've been really 
happy with it.  Version 3, if it should choose to appear, will let
you record on four tracks at once.  The only complaints I have are
about the lousy manuals.

Updike@UMass.BITNET (06/10/88)

Sorry, but I don't have the time to reply to the person who asked
about high end MIDI sequencers directly.

You are deciding between two very different sequencers.  I originally
bought KCS level II.  I didn't like it.  It was very hard to crank out
basic material.  Step editing was horrible.  The manual is not very
well written.  In short, I didn't like it, and bought Passport's Master
Tracks Pro, and I am very happy with it.

I have look at C-Lab's Creator, and it looks excellent.  Very nicely
done program.  In another month or so, however, C-Lab's Notator will
be available.  Supposedly it contains ALL of Creator plus a full notation
program.  It looked amazing.  I think it is available in Europe, so,
if anyone on the net could give further information, all us musicians
would be very appreciative.  If the notation part of it is good, go with
Creator because the notation program for KCS (the copyist), lacks in
many ways.  It is not very friendly, and is very slow to work with.
A basic transcription of one of my pieces took 3 hours AFTER I had learned
the program.  Aside from that, KSC II destroyed one of my pieces for
no reason.  Go for Creator, or for Master Tracks Pro....
Any further questions, feel free to write me at UPDIKE@Umass.

Ta,
Damian Roskill
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These are all my opinions, Dr. T's, C-Lab, or Passport can flame
me if they want......
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P.S.  I myself am waiting for Intelligent Music to come out with
Upbeat for the ST, so I can have a Fairlight Page R!

waycott@checkers.UUCP (John Waycott) (06/15/88)

In article <10580001@hpfclr.HP.COM>, cag@hpfclr.HP.COM (Craig Gleason) writes:
> >/ hpfclr:comp.sys.atari.st / Crawley@ALDERAAN.SCRC.SYMBOLICS.COM (Eric S. Crawley) / 12:37 pm  Jun  7, 1988 /
> >I am looking for a real high quality MIDI sequencer for my ST...
> 
> Take a look at Steinberg's Pro-24 version 2.1 (or 3.0, if it's out).
> I've had it for several months now and in general I've been really 
> happy with it.  Version 3, if it should choose to appear, will let
> you record on four tracks at once.  The only complaints I have are
> about the lousy manuals.

I Just ordered the update (3.0) of Steinberg's Pro-24.  According to the
notice I got, it adds many new features to 2.1 including more intuitive
editing (click and drag), drum editing, and a completely new manual
(Let's hope it's better than the previous ones).
3.0 should be available to everyone in about a month.
They have just started shipping updates to previous customers.  (I got
my notice yesterday).

I found that Dr. T's did not have some features that I need.
I'm a classical guitarist, not a keyboard player, so
I need to be able to enter some data in standard music notation.
The Pro-24 let's you do this, although it's not a real scoring program.

In general I'm quite pleased with the Pro-24.  (I second Craig's opinion on
the lousy manuals, though.)
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John Waycott	{asuvax, sun!sunburn}!checkers!waycott