[comp.sys.atari.st] More Gulam problems

jrd@STONY-BROOK.SCRC.SYMBOLICS.COM (John R. Dunning) (07/20/88)

I recently discovered why my ARC was behaving so strangely.  When I tell
gulam "arc a foo *.c" gulam attempts to expand the "*.c" into "foo.c
bar.c baz.c ...", and substitute that list of file names into the
arglist before starting up ARC.  the problem, of course, is that if
you've got very may files, gulam comes up with a ridiculously long
arglist, and ends up trying to call ARC with a bogus argstring, or
otherwise getting confused.

Checking the GULAM doc reveals some stuff about how it's a feechur (as
opposed to a bug in a tux) that it attempts to outsmart itself this way,
but I couldn't find any way to disable the feechur.  Does anyone know if
it's possible?

ljdickey@water.waterloo.edu (Lee Dickey) (07/20/88)

In article <19880719193319.2.JRD@MOA.SCRC.Symbolics.COM> jrd@STONY-BROOK.SCRC.SYMBOLICS.COM (John R. Dunning) writes:
| I recently discovered why my ARC was behaving so strangely.  When I tell
| gulam "arc a foo *.c" gulam attempts to expand the "*.c" into "foo.c
| bar.c baz.c ...", and substitute that list of file names into the
| arglist before starting up ARC.  the problem, of course, is that if
| you've got very may files, gulam comes up with a ridiculously long
| arglist, and ends up trying to call ARC with a bogus argstring, or
| otherwise getting confused.
|  [...]
|  ... Does anyone know if it's possible [ to disable this feature ] ?


Try
		arc a foo '*.c'


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rosenkra@Alliant.COM (Bill Rosenkranz) (07/21/88)

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In article <19880719193319.2.JRD@MOA.SCRC.Symbolics.COM> jrd@STONY-BROOK.SCRC.SYMBOLICS.COM (John R. Dunning) writes:
->I recently discovered why my ARC was behaving so strangely.  When I tell
->gulam "arc a foo *.c" gulam attempts to expand the "*.c" into "foo.c
->bar.c baz.c ...", and substitute that list of file names into the
->arglist before starting up ARC.  the problem, of course, is that if
->you've got very may files, gulam comes up with a ridiculously long
->arglist, and ends up trying to call ARC with a bogus argstring, or
->otherwise getting confused.

this is NOT a bug...this is the way gulam is s'posed to work (as does
sh and csh under unix). gulam expands any file wildcards (or more properly
regular expressions) before doing its system(3) call (or Pexec). if you
want arc to read the * in the command line, you must quote it thusly:

	arc a foo '*.c'

->Checking the GULAM doc reveals some stuff about how it's a feechur (as
->opposed to a bug in a tux) that it attempts to outsmart itself this way,
->but I couldn't find any way to disable the feechur.  Does anyone know if
->it's possible?

no, it didn't out smart itself, you just did not understand how the shell
works. just remember to quote and you should be alright. (ain't Unix 
wunnerful for new users? :^). the unix csh has a global variable called
'noglob' which inhibits this action. i don't think gulam has it so you
manually disable it with quotes.

-bill

wheels@mks.UUCP (Gerry Wheeler) (07/21/88)

In article <19880719193319.2.JRD@MOA.SCRC.Symbolics.COM>, jrd@STONY-BROOK.SCRC.SYMBOLICS.COM (John R. Dunning) writes:
> When I tell gulam "arc a foo *.c" gulam attempts to expand the "*.c"
> into "foo.c bar.c baz.c ..." but I couldn't find any way to disable the
> feechur. 

Well, in some of the shells I'm familiar with, you can enclose an
argument in quotes to hide special characters from the shell.  In the
Bourne shell and Korn shell (and maybe cshell, though I'm not familiar
with it) you can use double quotes (") to hide some things but still
allow others, and you can use single quotes (') to hide everything.  So,
your example would become:

	arc a foo '*.c'

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