keithr@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (U.D.M.) (10/19/88)
Here is a rumor I heard from a local dealer. The lack of availablity of 1040STs in the US is because Atari is in production of 68030 machines to be unleashed at COMDEX in November. Anyone else heard anything to this effect? _______________-------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^--------------________________ Keith Rast keithr@icogem1.ICO.TEK.COM
brazil@pawl17.pawl.rpi.edu (Timothy E. Onders) (10/21/88)
Yes, it's true. Atari is introducing their 68030 machine at Comdex. It is
supposed to be based on VME bus and can use Sun boards. It seems it will
be running BSD 4.3 and will include 8 channel 16 bit digitized sound. The
price estimate I heard floating around is $2000, but this could be dealer
or developer, and I'm not sure with what options. It will most likely,
however include the high rez 19" or 17" COLOR graphics system and monitor.
It will start shipping soon after Comdex. This news is mostly from Sam
Tramiel.
Also, Atari has signed a big new RAM contract and will put all
production, supposedly including the ATW, into full swing within two months.
Atari plans to be one of the top 4 computer companies in the world in 1989,
and I believe they will do it.
Timothy Onders
brazil@pawl.rpi.eduwolf@pyr.gatech.EDU ( Thomas Wolf) (10/21/88)
In article <1483@imagine.PAWL.RPI.EDU> brazil@pawl17.pawl.rpi.edu (Timothy E. Onders) writes: ...some deleted stuff... >Atari plans to be one of the top 4 computer companies in the world in 1989, >and I believe they will do it. Hmm. That "only" means they have to outsell companies such as IBM, Apple, Digital Equipment...and not in terms of "# of machines sold" but in amount of profit made! How much chance of that happening? Hell may freeze over first... (This is not meant as a put-down of Atari, but simply a comparison of SIZE. After all, companies like IBM and DEC make BILLIONS in profits on their computers...Atari's profits are not likely to approach any such numbers in the near future.)
brianb@bucsb.UUCP (Brian Bresnahan) (10/22/88)
In article <1483@imagine.PAWL.RPI.EDU> brazil@pawl17.pawl.rpi.edu (Timothy E. Onders) writes: I don't know about anyone else here, but I am getting a little tired of all the speculation about the 68030 machine, every article seems to have a different description of features, and they all have amazingly low prices. Here is a prime example of this: >Yes, it's true. Atari is introducing their 68030 machine at Comdex. It is >supposed to be based on VME bus and can use Sun boards. It seems it will >be running BSD 4.3 and will include 8 channel 16 bit digitized sound. The >price estimate I heard floating around is $2000, but this could be dealer >or developer, and I'm not sure with what options. It will most likely, >however include the high rez 19" or 17" COLOR graphics system and monitor. >It will start shipping soon after Comdex. This news is mostly from Sam >Tramiel. The person here in talking about all the special features that this machine has, neglects to mention some of the very importants basics. How much memory does it have, what are the disk storage options, backup facilities etc. If you are going to have BSD UNIX on it then it needs a lot of disk space and a good amount of memory. All of this stuff costs money. From a rough estimate, the memory, storage and monitor come close to $2000, this does not include CPU, software, packaging etc. > Also, Atari has signed a big new RAM contract and will put all >production, supposedly including the ATW, into full swing within two months. >Atari plans to be one of the top 4 computer companies in the world in 1989, >and I believe they will do it. You believe that they are going to be bigger than some of the companies on this list IBM Apple Digital Wang Prime Control Data Cray Xerox AT&T Those are 8 that I know will be bigger, there are probably plenty more which will be bigger. Unless Atari gets way up in the Fortune 500, it won't even be close. I don't know who in Atari made this statement, but that person is living in Fantasy land. > Timothy Onders > brazil@pawl.rpi.edu ___________________________ Brian Bresnahan brianb@bucsf.bu.edu engf0ic@buacca.bitnet
brazil@pawl17.pawl.rpi.edu (Timothy E. Onders) (10/24/88)
Note that Atari was in, I believe, the top 100 computer manufacturers as rated by Fortune magazine. I can't remember exactly how high. brazil@pawl.rpi.edu
cmcmanis%pepper@Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) (10/24/88)
In article <1508@imagine.PAWL.RPI.EDU> (Timothy E. Onders) writes: >Note that Atari was in, I believe, the top 100 computer manufacturers as rated >by Fortune magazine. I can't remember exactly how high. > brazil@pawl.rpi.edu Of course the numbers get really exciting as you go up toward #1. I'd bet they would have to have more than 2 billion in sales to come close. So they had better get their buns in gear. Then there is Commodore who is consistently out performing them, but we are talking '89 so I would guess anything could change. --Chuck McManis uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: cmcmanis ARPAnet: cmcmanis@sun.com These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you.
david@bdt.UUCP (David Beckemeyer) (10/25/88)
In article <1483@imagine.PAWL.RPI.EDU> brazil@pawl17.pawl.rpi.edu (Timothy E. Onders) writes: >Atari plans to be one of the top 4 computer companies in the world in 1989, >and I believe they will do it. > Timothy Onders > brazil@pawl.rpi.edu Anybody have a bridge they want to sell this guy? His he for real? If so, where has he been the past few years? Doesn't this sound strikingly similar to Atari's claims around every COMDEX and CES for the past four (or is it five) years? Maybe someone should list all of Atari's past "dream machines" and promises of brighter futures for old Tim here. Can you name five? Ten? I thought you could. -- David Beckemeyer (david@bdt.UUCP) | "Lester Moore - Four slugs from a .44 Beckemeyer Development Tools | no Les, no more." 478 Santa Clara Ave. Oakland, CA 94610 | - Headstone at Boot Hill UUCP: {uunet,ucbvax}!unisoft!bdt!david | Tombstone, AZ
wes@obie.UUCP (Barnacle Wes) (10/25/88)
In article <2940@vice.ICO.TEK.COM>, keithr@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (U.D.M.) writes: > Here is a rumor I heard from a local dealer. The lack of > availablity of 1040STs in the US is because Atari is in production > of 68030 machines to be unleashed at COMDEX in November. Anyone else > heard anything to this effect? My dealer recently visited Atari for some sort of dealer support conference, and when he came back, he said Atari won't be making any more 1040STs. The can make twice as many 520STfms as 1040STs given the same supply of RAM chips. It makes sense to me; the new STfms have double sided drives and the spots on the motherboard for the second bank of RAM chips. The 520STfm is essentially a 1040ST minus the second bank of RAM chips. I've also read of the '030 machine to be released at Comdex - I can't wait! Cringely was "pushing" the machine in last week's InfoWorld. -- "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell "How come he didn't put `I think' at the end of it?" - James P. Hogan