dav@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (William David Haas) (01/04/89)
I am thinking about getting an atari. Why? cost. I plan to spend no more
than $2000. Should I be looking at amiga's?
I have one main concern. I want to be able to write C code that will run on a
unix machine. Looking through the magazines I have seen two C languages that
look good. Can anyone tell me about Mark Williams C and Laser C?
I have some questions about what kind of system I should get.
What is the difference between a 1040 and a 1040+?
What is the difference between a 1040 and a mega 2?
How much do the mega system cost and where can I get one?
I worked on a 520st with a development company back when the st first came
out (back when the os was all software, not on chips). How much has changed
since those days?
Is there an st running with the 68020 chip and what are the stats on the
STacey?
dav
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"Shadow, do something! Those flying Morpheous / \
birds are going to get us!" Psimon / _ \
shadow master / //\ \
"O.k., o.k., I'll cast Dav El II / // \\ \
Transmute Roc to mud." / /____\\ \
We are the /________\\ \
warrior spirit. \__________\/Xorg@cup.portal.com (Peter Ted Szymonik) (01/05/89)
Very quickly - call J&R Music and Computer in NYC, they *will* mail order Atari computers. Last time I checked they were asking $1,299 for a Mega 2 mono system. Then contact Software Distributors of America (found on CompuServe and GEnie) and buy a Supra 30 meg drive $649. If you want one buy an extrenal SF314 DD drive for another $200 (really unecessary with the HD.) You've just spend a little over $2,000 and have one of the most powerful packages out there. C programming on the ST is a breeze and both Mark WIlliams an Laser are excellent. There is no such thing as a 1040+, The Mega 2 runs faster than the 1040 and has the blitter chip which makes a big difference in the speed of grpahic displays. Add another $400-500 for Spectre 128, a set of Mac Plus ROMS, and Happy's Discovery Cart and you have a premire Mac Plus emulator to boot that runs all major software packages at speeds that are *faster* than a real Mac Plus or SE. Strong rumors are also out that this year will see the intro of a hardware add on box for the ST that will allow AT emulation at 100% speeds. Enough said - enjoy! Pete
dav@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (William David Haas) (01/06/89)
In article <13204@cup.portal.com> Xorg@cup.portal.com (Peter Ted Szymonik) writes: >There is no such thing as a 1040+, In the December? (most recent issue, has editor choice software '88) there is an add near the back of the magizine for a company selling used atari systems. They sell the 1040+ st for $719. From the picture it looks like it has the DS/DD drive in the CPU box. Since I posted the original article dont consider this an answer to the question. I am still wondering exactly what it is. _ "Shadow, do something! Those flying Morpheous / \ birds are going to get us!" Psimon / _ \ shadow master / //\ \ "O.k., o.k., I'll cast Dav El II / // \\ \ Transmute Roc to mud." / /____\\ \ We are the /________\\ \ warrior spirit. \__________\/
apratt@atari.UUCP (Allan Pratt) (01/06/89)
In article <13204@cup.portal.com> Xorg@cup.portal.com (Peter Ted Szymonik) writes: > [...] The Mega 2 runs faster than the 1040 [...] Please, nobody start the rumor that Megas are faster than 1040/520 ST's! It's only because of the Mega ROMs, not because the machine is any faster. In fact, I think new 1040s and 520s are shipping with Mega ROMs (I could be wrong) so it won't be faster. (It'll be slightly slower: an extra Megabyte to clear for each program load.) ============================================ Opinions expressed above do not necessarily -- Allan Pratt, Atari Corp. reflect those of Atari Corp. or anyone else. ...ames!atari!apratt
dav@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (William David Haas) (01/06/89)
In article <11653@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU> dav@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (William David Haas) writes: <In article <13204@cup.portal.com> Xorg@cup.portal.com (Peter Ted Szymonik) writes: <>There is no such thing as a 1040+, < <In the December? (most recent issue, has editor choice software '88) there <is an add near the back of the magizine for a company selling used atari <systems. They sell the 1040+ st for $719. From the picture it looks like <it has the DS/DD drive in the CPU box. Since I posted the original article <dont consider this an answer to the question. I am still wondering exactly <what it is. < I forgot to say it was in the December(?) STart. _ "Shadow, do something! Those flying Morpheous / \ birds are going to get us!" Psimon / _ \ shadow master / //\ \ "O.k., o.k., I'll cast Dav El II / // \\ \ Transmute Roc to mud." / /____\\ \ We are the /________\\ \ warrior spirit. \__________\/
dav@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (William David Haas) (01/06/89)
In article <11653@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU> dav@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (William David Haas) writes: <In article <13204@cup.portal.com> Xorg@cup.portal.com (Peter Ted Szymonik) writes: <>There is no such thing as a 1040+, < <In the December? (most recent issue, has editor choice software '88) there <is an add near the back of the magizine for a company selling used atari <systems. They sell the 1040+ st for $719. From the picture it looks like <it has the DS/DD drive in the CPU box. Since I posted the original article <dont consider this an answer to the question. I am still wondering exactly <what it is. < The add is in the January 1989 issue of STart on page 95. It is an add for Computer Repeats, Inc. There phone number is 1-800-347-3457. I just called them and asked what the 1040+ is. It is a 520st with a 1meg upgrade and an RF modulator so you can run it off your TV. I also asked if they sell the Mega 2 and they do. The mono system is $1299 and the color is $1499. Something just occured to me. I have been assuming that the Mega 2 will run either color or mono depending on what you connect to it but can it run either by simply change conections? _ "Shadow, do something! Those flying Morpheous / \ birds are going to get us!" Psimon / _ \ shadow master / //\ \ "O.k., o.k., I'll cast Dav El II / // \\ \ Transmute Roc to mud." / /____\\ \ We are the /________\\ \ warrior spirit. \__________\/ > _ "Shadow, do something! Those flying Morpheous / \ birds are going to get us!" Psimon / _ \ shadow master / //\ \ "O.k., o.k., I'll cast Dav El II / // \\ \ Transmute Roc to mud." / /____\\ \ We are the /________\\ \ warrior spirit. \__________\/
Xorg@cup.portal.com (Peter Ted Szymonik) (01/08/89)
I noticed a similar ad for a '1040ST+', apparently the only difference is that the (+) has an RF modulator so you can connect the 1040ST to a t.v./monitor other than Atari's at no extra cost for such a board - it is also possible that the (+) also has the blitter chip and possible the new TOS ROMs, I'd ask before buying to make sure that the (+) is worth the added cost (if any.) Pete
Xorg@cup.portal.com (Peter Ted Szymonik) (01/08/89)
Whoops, I hadn't assumed that someone might mistake my words, my comment on the Mega running faster is solely because the screen redraws are much faster than they were under my old 1040's. The machine itself is *not* faster, only the grpahic displays. Sorry. Pete