[comp.sys.atari.st] the MGR window manger is finally available

hyc@math.lsa.umich.edu (Howard Chu) (01/24/89)

In article <1942@ast.cs.vu.nl> ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum) writes:
%In article <13539@bellcore.bellcore.com> daniel@wind.UUCP (Daniel W Nachbar) writes:
%>Starting this week, the source code for the MGR window manager
%>is being distributed on comp.sources.unix. 
%>The port to System V took
%>about 2 days.  The port to the sun 386i took 2 hours.  A summer student
%>ported it to the Mac (running MacOS not A/UX) in less than two weeks.
%>I suspect that a port to Minix might be similarly painless.
%
%Given the size of X, I doubt that it will ever run adequately on any
%machine for which MINIX is appropriate.  Are there any window fans who
%have a few days to take a look at MGR and see if it can be ported to MINIX?
%
%Andy Tanenbaum (ast@cs.vu.nl)

I've just started playing with mgr on a Sun. It looks very nice, and the
size is much more reasonable. (Just under 1.4meg for the entire binary tree,
including all fonts and icons. Full library is only around 40K.) It's lean
and mean, and very fast. (On a Sun, anyway.) I'm very interested in getting
it running on my ST. At a first glance thru, it looks like it should be very
easy for ST-Minix, and also doable for TOS. So far everyone who's seen it
running here (on a Sun 3/50) has been very impressed. 
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emv@a.cc.umich.edu (Ed Vielmetti) (01/26/89)

Using MGR right now -- thanks!

A few questions before I dive into the source & documentation --

- SIGWINCH.  Do changes in window size send this signal out?
  I don't see any evidence of it, though it would be useful
  for things like hpmgr.

- /bin/ksh.  My poor stupid sun doesn't have it, 'menu' uses it.
  In the case of menu, it works with /bin/sh just fine -- any
  one else who has experience converting the shell scripts over
  to executables for the crowd without /bin/ksh (like on the
  ST) would be good to speak up.  

- keyboard mappings.  I hate mice.  Is there a nice way to rebind
  keys on the keyboard to do things equivalent to mouse movements,
  pop up menus, or menu command options?  I see ways to predefine
  windows (window-set IDs) for left-1 through left-9, so that might
  be adequate for now.